One of our own was there on the panel! This forum was held in may, apologies if it has been posted already, but I wasn't aware of this until recently.
http://www.gunfacts.info/home/media-res ... icy-forum/
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
2After watching this all I can say is:
Gator! Gator! Gator! Awesome job. You done good and represented us well.
Gator! Gator! Gator! Awesome job. You done good and represented us well.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
3They were supposed to tell me when the link went up! Thanks for posting this.
I have to say -- if you get the chance to do something similar, go for it! It was fun prepping for this, I got to meet interesting people, and had nothing but positive interactions with the staff and students. I expected to get a hard time from the UCSC students but didn't at all.
I have to say -- if you get the chance to do something similar, go for it! It was fun prepping for this, I got to meet interesting people, and had nothing but positive interactions with the staff and students. I expected to get a hard time from the UCSC students but didn't at all.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
4You done us proud Gator, I especially liked your wrap up and your gracious effort to invite new people to go shooting.
Hearing some of the Brady dude's arguments though, it was rather grating, much like fingernails on the chalk board. Can't believe I used to be like that too, but glad I moved on. But hopefully it's exchanges like this that help make non-gun folks stop and reflect a bit and get past the typical anti-2A talking points.
Hearing some of the Brady dude's arguments though, it was rather grating, much like fingernails on the chalk board. Can't believe I used to be like that too, but glad I moved on. But hopefully it's exchanges like this that help make non-gun folks stop and reflect a bit and get past the typical anti-2A talking points.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
5This was very soon after the Isla Vista "incident". So everyone was ready for some sort of emotional bloodbath. But that never happened. However, it seemed the Brady guy went in thinking purely emotional arguments would carry the day. It was almost like having a secret ally pitching the softball comments...pdoggeth wrote:You done us proud Gator, I especially liked your wrap up and your gracious effort to invite new people to go shooting.
Hearing some of the Brady dude's arguments though, it was rather grating, much like fingernails on the chalk board. Can't believe I used to be like that too, but glad I moved on. But hopefully it's exchanges like this that help make non-gun folks stop and reflect a bit and get past the typical anti-2A talking points.
I handed out a bunch of LGC cards to students but none of them have contacted me or joined the forum that I know of.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
6Wow. The Brady guy... I'd call him unbelievable, but I know he's real.
Good job, man!
Good job, man!
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
9Again, I thought Gator did an outstanding job, and the discussion really piqued my interest. Was Elliot Rodger, the Isla Vista killer really insane? I mean we rather assume that all mass murderers are insane but is this really accurate? I mean this guy was part of the 1% which meant he had the finest psychological care available. He had psychiatrists, psychologists, and even life coaches. Not one of them reported him as being insane. He certainly did not fit the legal definition of insanity. He was able to tell right from wrong. He knew what he was doing was wrong. So why do we consider him insane? Is it because most of us have never had the desire to commit mass murder? Look at the Holocaust; look at Rwanda -- good Christian people committing mass murder. From what I can glean from the literature one of the more prominent theories is that most mass murderers want to commit suicide but they want to do it in spectacular fashion hence the other deaths are window dressing for their own virtuoso performance. That sounds like sanity rather than insanity to me. The reason I ask these questions is that if it really is sanity then adding a few more doctors to the mental health ranks and strengthening reporting and gun control will have absolutely zero effect. Rather than stating a position, I am seeking discussion and opinions.
By the way there is a pretty good article here: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 13900.html
By the way there is a pretty good article here: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 13900.html
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
10I can't get that vid at the link to load for me. Does anyone have another link?
bigstones, that article was interesting. A quote:
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/10/gun-fac ... z3F5wOwBFa
CDFingers
bigstones, that article was interesting. A quote:
on edit, I found a link that loads for me, so if anyone has troubles with the OP link, here's another:Gun control won't fix our problem. Neither will doctors.
And perhaps this is why the national conversation has immediately shifted to the pros and cons of gun control. Guns and death are easier to talk about than race or gender.
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/10/gun-fac ... z3F5wOwBFa
CDFingers
Crazy cat peekin' through a lace bandana
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
11Nice job Walter. Great plug at the end inviting the audience out to the range- Thanks for doing this!
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
12The Brady guy was hard to listen to, the rest of the panel was pretty damn good.
You did a great job!
You did a great job!
some days, I just don't English
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
13Yeah, the Brady guy wasn't particularly coherent. Seemed nervous
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
15It's the gentle calm smiling thuggery that they never expect.gator68 wrote:I am pretty intimidating.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
16Gator68 did us proud. FS and I gave him a little prep...not that he needed it. But if one of you guys ends up doing something like this, we can try and help you prep.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
17Looks like the Brady guy needed your help.senorgrand wrote:Gator68 did us proud. FS and I gave him a little prep...not that he needed it. But if one of you guys ends up doing something like this, we can try and help you prep.
"We'll have to call it early quantum state phenomenon. Only way to fit 5000 species of mammal on the same boat."-River Tam
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
18Nicely done, Walter, nicely done. Although, I'm a bit disappointed they didn't have a knuckle-dragger from Calguns on the panel.
Chamber's empty, magazine's full, safety's broken.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
19Now that I've finished it, yes: gator did us proud. That poor Brady guy really had no premises of note. I think gun laws even in California are relegate to nibbling 'round the edges. There are more important issues than gun law. But gun law is fun, I tells ya. Range trip in the morning to shoot my new (to me) .308 Garand--I did the greasing this evening.
CDFingers
CDFingers
Crazy cat peekin' through a lace bandana
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
20Is there another link? I can't seem to get it to work.
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
21Try the link in the second post.sikacz wrote:Is there another link? I can't seem to get it to work.
It's still dark here...
CDFingers
Crazy cat peekin' through a lace bandana
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
22No luck. Thanks though..CDFingers wrote:Try the link in the second post.sikacz wrote:Is there another link? I can't seem to get it to work.
It's still dark here...
CDFingers
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
23Did the vid just load and load and load and never play? If so, google the title in the first post and you'll get several options for the stream. I went through a couple until one worked. Best of luck.
CDFingers
CDFingers
Crazy cat peekin' through a lace bandana
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
24Yes, I'll try the googling!CDFingers wrote:Did the vid just load and load and load and never play? If so, google the title in the first post and you'll get several options for the stream. I went through a couple until one worked. Best of luck.
CDFingers
Re: Video: Gun Culture Forum at UCSC
25Author of gun "facts"
Every one you've ever met or will ever meet, knows something you don't. -Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Anti-Gravity Activist
Black Lives Matter
Anti-Gravity Activist
Black Lives Matter