It has been an authoritarian society with privileges for only a few for an extremely long time. This just keeps following the same tradition. No surprise.senorgrand wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:48 pm I find it odd that in the 21st Century, what was the world's greatest empire is now spending significant resources banning weapons that have been in use since the literal Stone Age.
Considering the fact that these weapons can be readily made from crap you find on the ground, maybe they should consider root cause mitigation?
Re: Knife Free in the UK
27This is where the UK's anti-knife campaign has gone in terms of actual enforcement:
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
I reallllly want to believe this is a joke, but it fits with their other triumphant "stop and search" weapons seizure posts on the account. Here in the US, edged weapons are used to murder 3-4 times as many people as are killed with rifles of any kind; if a semi-auto rifle ban is a part of "common sense" legislation, then so is the UK's hilarious waste of public resources focusing on objects rather than root causes of violence.
ETA: Oh my, it really isn't a joke, and it isn't new - https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/976007945094909952
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
I reallllly want to believe this is a joke, but it fits with their other triumphant "stop and search" weapons seizure posts on the account. Here in the US, edged weapons are used to murder 3-4 times as many people as are killed with rifles of any kind; if a semi-auto rifle ban is a part of "common sense" legislation, then so is the UK's hilarious waste of public resources focusing on objects rather than root causes of violence.
ETA: Oh my, it really isn't a joke, and it isn't new - https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/976007945094909952
Morale was deteriorating and it was all Yossarian's fault. The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
Re: Knife Free in the UK
28Gobsmacked is the appropriate word I think.Fnords wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:08 pm This is where the UK's anti-knife campaign has gone in terms of actual enforcement:
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
I reallllly want to believe this is a joke, but it fits with their other triumphant "stop and search" weapons seizure posts on the account. Here in the US, edged weapons are used to murder 3-4 times as many people as are killed with rifles of any kind; if a semi-auto rifle ban is a part of "common sense" legislation, then so is the UK's hilarious waste of public resources focusing on objects rather than root causes of violence.
ETA: Oh my, it really isn't a joke, and it isn't new - https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/976007945094909952
The comments are hilarious.
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29I mean, using a first-world police force to round up rusty pitchforks might seem absurd at first, but remember that farming implements are "weapons of rebellion," historically speaking, whatever their other uses. William the Conqueror allowed peasants to own the latest farming implements in a different era - he never meant for them to have modern steel pitchforks with composite handles. Anyway, what are you going to do with a pitchfork against a modern knight? Pitchforks have changed, so should the law.BKinzey wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:25 pmGobsmacked is the appropriate word I think.Fnords wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:08 pm This is where the UK's anti-knife campaign has gone in terms of actual enforcement:
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
I reallllly want to believe this is a joke, but it fits with their other triumphant "stop and search" weapons seizure posts on the account. Here in the US, edged weapons are used to murder 3-4 times as many people as are killed with rifles of any kind; if a semi-auto rifle ban is a part of "common sense" legislation, then so is the UK's hilarious waste of public resources focusing on objects rather than root causes of violence.
ETA: Oh my, it really isn't a joke, and it isn't new - https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/976007945094909952
The comments are hilarious.
Morale was deteriorating and it was all Yossarian's fault. The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
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30Next, they'll be picking-up rocks and sticks in the park to keep the populace safe.
Jesus, it's an entire government by helicopter parents.
Jesus, it's an entire government by helicopter parents.
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31We need to add a tactical rock bansenorgrand wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:29 pm Next, they'll be picking-up rocks and sticks in the park to keep the populace safe.
Jesus, it's an entire government by helicopter parents.
https://www.amazon.com/XR5-Tactical-Ass ... B01E1SGOX8
to the tactical bat ban
https://goo.gl/images/qCqTWx
Re: Knife Free in the UK
32I see what you did there...:-) As for modern knights, neck and groin (femoral arteries). Any body armor must have gaps if you're going to be able to move.Fnords wrote:I mean, using a first-world police force to round up rusty pitchforks might seem absurd at first, but remember that farming implements are "weapons of rebellion," historically speaking, whatever their other uses. William the Conqueror allowed peasants to own the latest farming implements in a different era - he never meant for them to have modern steel pitchforks with composite handles. Anyway, what are you going to do with a pitchfork against a modern knight? Pitchforks have changed, so should the law.BKinzey wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:25 pmGobsmacked is the appropriate word I think.Fnords wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:08 pm This is where the UK's anti-knife campaign has gone in terms of actual enforcement:
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
I reallllly want to believe this is a joke, but it fits with their other triumphant "stop and search" weapons seizure posts on the account. Here in the US, edged weapons are used to murder 3-4 times as many people as are killed with rifles of any kind; if a semi-auto rifle ban is a part of "common sense" legislation, then so is the UK's hilarious waste of public resources focusing on objects rather than root causes of violence.
ETA: Oh my, it really isn't a joke, and it isn't new - https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/976007945094909952
The comments are hilarious.
"In every generation there are those who want to rule well - but they mean to rule. They promise to be good masters - but they mean to be masters." — Daniel Webster
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33This has GOT to be a joke, right!?!?!?
Worker bees can leave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave.
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34Nope. Improvised weapons will be next. Ballpoint pens, rolled-up magazines, chairs.
It's turning into a nefbat nation.
It's turning into a nefbat nation.
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35The ultimate Nanny State, with a figurehead nanny at the top - the Queen. Since these stabbings have basically been in the London area, I'm sure they're concerned about the tourist trade and showing tourists that they're doing something.senorgrand wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:29 pm Next, they'll be picking-up rocks and sticks in the park to keep the populace safe.
Jesus, it's an entire government by helicopter parents.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Re: Knife Free in the UK
36This genuinely makes me sad. Despite our many differences, they were our staunch friends and allies through two world wars, and a cold war.senorgrand wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:48 pm I find it odd that in the 21st Century, what was the world's greatest empire is now spending significant resources banning weapons that have been in use since the literal Stone Age.
Now... This mindless reaction to the human condition.
Humans are dangerous... At what point do we ban them?
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37As a longtime fan, I'm a little surprised at how much I object to Cookie Monster being dragged into all this.
(and I kinda wonder about whether they have permission from Sesame Workshop)
Morale was deteriorating and it was all Yossarian's fault. The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
Re: Knife Free in the UK
38Meanwhile in the Barnet Burrough:
https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/983654753153507328
And Fulham Broadway:
https://twitter.com/MPSFulhamBrdway/sta ... 0552058880
https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/983654753153507328
https://twitter.com/MPSBarnet/status/976007945094909952MPS Barnet
Verified account
3:35 AM - 10 Apr 2018
@metpoliceuk is already using a number of tactics to bear down on knife crime & reduce the number of homicides. This includes a greater use of intelligence led #ROBUST Stop&Search, Operations, Arrests, Weapon Sweeps, Weapon Seizures, Community Engagement. #978SX
So much for the masses being left only with pitchforks.MPS Barnet
Verified account
Mar 20
Officers from @MPSBarnet were over in @MPSEnfield on #opsceptre found these items in ponders end recreation ground #saferEnfield
And Fulham Broadway:
https://twitter.com/MPSFulhamBrdway/sta ... 0552058880
Fulham Bdwy Police
Apr 9
During our wepon sweep over the weekend, this hammer was found in Samuel Lewis Trust #fulhambroadway #fulham #sw6 #opsceptre #metpolice
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39nerfball nation...soon, every grown-up in the uk will need a member of the government to walk them daily. They can put them on leashes...for their own safety, of course.
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40Camden:
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8316167169
https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/ ... 7186967554
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8558980096
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 7956319232Regents Park Police
Verified account
Mar 16
These items were found during a #weaponSweep near #MackworthHouse #AugustasSt during #OpSceptre . Safely disposed and taken off the streets
And interesting wording here among posts about LEOs patting themselves on the back for seizing cannabis:Regents Park Police
Verified account
Mar 21
First great result of today is one knife being found in #ThreeFields Estate during a #OpSceptre #WeaponSweep by PC Eaglestone. Safely taken off the streets. Persistence pays off. Great proactive start to our day.
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/stat ... 8316167169
https://twitter.com/MetTaskforce/status ... 5197761536Regents Park Police
Verified account
Apr 11
Over 4 miles on foot, but you can see we concentrated on a particular area-an area that our residents have told us is suffering from drug related crime & Anti Social Behaviour. If you need us to patrol an area- let us know. DM and we can speak to you.
Alas, a semi-automatic handgun:MetTaskforce
Verified account
Proactive policing by TSG #U523 on @MPSSouthwark in the SE1 area
Lock Knife concealed on male, found during #stopandsearch
arrested for possession of an offensive weapon
Using #stopandsearch Taking weapons from the streets
https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/ ... 7186967554
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41Thank God they got those pliers off the street. Otherwise, the remnents of the Empire might have crumbled into the dust of history.
Re: Knife Free in the UK
42Holeee shiiite! I'm the owner of a massive arsenal. Of tools. I have a workshop at home AND work!!! Y'all should relly not see what I own.
'Sorry stupid people but there are some definite disadvantages to being stupid."
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Re: Knife Free in the UK
43In Scotland “glassing” is the term used for hitting someone with a pint glass.senorgrand wrote:Nope. Improvised weapons will be next. Ballpoint pens, rolled-up magazines, chairs.
It's turning into a nefbat nation.
“I’ll gie ya a glassin’ jimmy!”
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441) instill fear into the populace
2) convince citizens that more police powers are needed to make them safe
3) enact new laws restricting personal freedom and enhancing the police state
4) if there is a failure to keep the populace safe, use as evidence that not enough is being done; go to 1
5) if there is a success in getting prohibited items/activities/people "off the street", convince the populace that such laws are working and should be expanded; go to 3
2) convince citizens that more police powers are needed to make them safe
3) enact new laws restricting personal freedom and enhancing the police state
4) if there is a failure to keep the populace safe, use as evidence that not enough is being done; go to 1
5) if there is a success in getting prohibited items/activities/people "off the street", convince the populace that such laws are working and should be expanded; go to 3
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45Yeah. I wonder when I'll need a permit for my bandsaw, table saw and radial arm saw. Butchers use bandsaws, you know, to dismember (animal) bodies. Totally not safe.Mason wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:38 pm Holeee shiiite! I'm the owner of a massive arsenal. Of tools. I have a workshop at home AND work!!! Y'all should relly not see what I own.
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46Sometime after owners of bandsaws, table saws, and radial arm saws in the UK do. The UK is way ahead of us on the restriction of weapons and has taken the obvious next step of declaring household tools weapons, but we'll get there.featureless wrote:Yeah. I wonder when I'll need a permit for my bandsaw, table saw and radial arm saw.Mason wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:38 pm Holeee shiiite! I'm the owner of a massive arsenal. Of tools. I have a workshop at home AND work!!! Y'all should relly not see what I own.
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Re: Knife Free in the UK
47I’m not even on Twitter, and I almost want to get on just to see what this police department thinks is “proactive policing”.
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48I don't know about y'all, but all my tools were lost in a boating accident, including my table saw.featureless wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:27 pmYeah. I wonder when I'll need a permit for my bandsaw, table saw and radial arm saw. Butchers use bandsaws, you know, to dismember (animal) bodies. Totally not safe.Mason wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:38 pm Holeee shiiite! I'm the owner of a massive arsenal. Of tools. I have a workshop at home AND work!!! Y'all should relly not see what I own.
Re: Knife Free in the UK
49Wait till the police discover wood turning tools. And the totally dangerous assault cordless sawsall. Probably need to take a class and get a permit to use one, same as Massachusetts requires a permit for a nail gun.
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- Ronald Reagan
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50I lost my framing hammer in a boating accident. And my Hawaiian sling. Luckily, my hanbo looks like a stick and floats so was able to recover it. I'm sure that won't be banned.