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whitey wrote:
STLWaffles wrote:Just IMed a Il friend of mine that reloads. You just need a FOID card to buy the supplies(including press).
Seriously? WTF?
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Questions I have
What if you buy out of state and transport supplies back or buy from the internet?

I know I can go to Cabela's up the road from me and buy primers powder and any other supplies and equipment without any ID check.

Is it illegal to have the reloading equipment and supplies in your possession with out having a FOiD card?
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Seriously, a FOID card to buy a reloading press? What about dies, trimmers, shell holders, etc? FOID to buy a $3 shell holder? Do you have to pay a transfer fee if you buy it from someone else? Only done through an FFL??? :crazy: Yikes. I thought it was silly in CA.
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MudPuppy98 wrote:Maryland: Illegal to reload in attached housing, like a townhouse or apartment. Which is probably 75% of the housing in my county.
Not a bad law considering the risk of lead exposure as well the fire risk from gunpowder.
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OldScratch wrote:
MudPuppy98 wrote:Maryland: Illegal to reload in attached housing, like a townhouse or apartment. Which is probably 75% of the housing in my county.
Not a bad law considering the risk of lead exposure as well the fire risk from gunpowder.
Pure politics, you'd be surprised how many things found around the house that is more lethal than gun powder.
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eelj wrote:
OldScratch wrote:
MudPuppy98 wrote:Maryland: Illegal to reload in attached housing, like a townhouse or apartment. Which is probably 75% of the housing in my county.
Not a bad law considering the risk of lead exposure as well the fire risk from gunpowder.
Pure politics, you'd be surprised how many things found around the house that is more lethal than gun powder.
Gasoline's generally not legal to store in an apartment, why would gunpowder be? Not politics, common sense.
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eelj wrote:
OldScratch wrote:
MudPuppy98 wrote:Maryland: Illegal to reload in attached housing, like a townhouse or apartment. Which is probably 75% of the housing in my county.
Not a bad law considering the risk of lead exposure as well the fire risk from gunpowder.
Pure politics, you'd be surprised how many things found around the house that is more lethal than gun powder.
Yep, like mixing your cleaning agents. Chlorine Bleach and and Ammonia or toilet bowl cleaners. Beware of the green chlorine gas cloud.
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Most, if not all, states that use the model fire code have a limit on how much smokeless gun powder you can have in your house. IIRC it's 7 or 10 pounds and beyond that you have to have a wooden magazine with 2" thick sides to store it in. Usually you won't get in legal trouble over it BUT your insurance company can deny your claim after a fire because of it.
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wlewisiii wrote:Most, if not all, states that use the model fire code have a limit on how much smokeless gun powder you can have in your house. IIRC it's 7 or 10 pounds and beyond that you have to have a wooden magazine with 2" thick sides to store it in. Usually you won't get in legal trouble over it BUT your insurance company can deny your claim after a fire because of it.
Crap! Really? Guess I need to buy some wood this weekend. I am using a metal cabinet.
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Local laws are frequently different. I use a wooden cabinet for storing mine because it's convenient.
10-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) may be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), may be stored in residences if kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls or at least 1-inc. (25.4-mm) nominal thickness.
Source:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/getting_st ... dling.aspx
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Based on my experience in the printing industry in my younger years, it's never a bad idea to check the material safety data sheets, aka MSDS, when you're working with chemicals.

Winchester's smokeless gunpowder rates a 2 health hazard, 3 for fire hazard and a 2 for reactivity:

http://www.winchester.com/sitecollectio ... ds_w64.pdf

In contrast to gasoline which only rates a 1 health hazard, 3 for fire hazard and a 0 for reactivity:

http://www.evnut.com/docs/gasoline_msds.pdf

In contrast, mineral spirits rate a 0 health hazard and only a 2 for flammability:

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926123

And finally, centerfire ammunition rates a 0 health hazard and only a 1 fire hazard, but a 2 for reactivity:

http://www.winchester.com/SiteCollectio ... S-2012.pdf

It's not a good idea to be reloading at your kitchen table. Ymmv though.
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Powder cabinets need to be built so they will have a blowout panel to relieve and pressure. Keeping powder in a metal or heavy wood cabinet without a blowout panel becomes a bomb in a fire.
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OldScratch wrote:
eelj wrote:
OldScratch wrote:
MudPuppy98 wrote:Maryland: Illegal to reload in attached housing, like a townhouse or apartment. Which is probably 75% of the housing in my county.
Not a bad law considering the risk of lead exposure as well the fire risk from gunpowder.
Pure politics, you'd be surprised how many things found around the house that is more lethal than gun powder.
Gasoline's generally not legal to store in an apartment, why would gunpowder be? Not politics, common sense.
I've never lived in attached housing in Illinois where I could pound a nail into a connective wall. They were all brick or concrete.

Also, laws for gun powder are different than those for smokeless powder due to the whole explosive vs burner issue.

Lexington and Concord both used the same powder houses, none of which were inside any city limits.
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