Even if it was an LGC bus trip?Doc wrote:no shortage of farmers who will welcome anyone with a firearm willing to decrease the plague-like populations of pigs.
Do the largemouth still spawn in February/March down yonder?
Hmmmmmm...
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Even if it was an LGC bus trip?Doc wrote:no shortage of farmers who will welcome anyone with a firearm willing to decrease the plague-like populations of pigs.
For some reason i feel like making love to a flank steak. Gee, thanks.JinxRemoving wrote:I have never been hunting (other than fishing, and holy crap do I love fish ) but assuming you are eating your kill, culling overpopulated heards (a single shot seems more humane than starvation) and performing some benefit for humans at a sustainable cost for the wildlife, then good on ya.
The issue comes when playing cowboys-and-buffalo-- possibly one of the most embarrassing and disgusting chapters in our nation's history of wildlife stewardship.
I'll be travelling through the south in a few weeks, and i have to say-- I'd love to take down some nutria while in Louisiana... apparently there is some $$ in that for pest control, as well as lovely, non-anally-electrocuted fur.
I have to say that vegans, in general, piss me off. It is such a first world problem, to struggle with not eating animal products so you can feel morally superior about your choices. To me, it is like abstaining from sex to keep yourself pure-- yes, you can do it, but to what end? Our mortal coils were meant to experience the depth and breadth of the short lives we are granted, be it a flank steak or lovemaking, and to artificially deny yourself any of it is a luxury that those closer to the edge of survival simply don't have.
I would rather indulge in both, but knowing the consequences of my actions and behaving in a responsible, mature, and aware manner, rather than a blanket asceticism that robs the soul.
With the right marinade, it can be a pretty sexy cut...goosekiller wrote:For some reason i feel like making love to a flank steak. Gee, thanks.JinxRemoving wrote:I have never been hunting (other than fishing, and holy crap do I love fish ) but assuming you are eating your kill, culling overpopulated heards (a single shot seems more humane than starvation) and performing some benefit for humans at a sustainable cost for the wildlife, then good on ya.
The issue comes when playing cowboys-and-buffalo-- possibly one of the most embarrassing and disgusting chapters in our nation's history of wildlife stewardship.
I'll be travelling through the south in a few weeks, and i have to say-- I'd love to take down some nutria while in Louisiana... apparently there is some $$ in that for pest control, as well as lovely, non-anally-electrocuted fur.
I have to say that vegans, in general, piss me off. It is such a first world problem, to struggle with not eating animal products so you can feel morally superior about your choices. To me, it is like abstaining from sex to keep yourself pure-- yes, you can do it, but to what end? Our mortal coils were meant to experience the depth and breadth of the short lives we are granted, be it a flank steak or lovemaking, and to artificially deny yourself any of it is a luxury that those closer to the edge of survival simply don't have.
I would rather indulge in both, but knowing the consequences of my actions and behaving in a responsible, mature, and aware manner, rather than a blanket asceticism that robs the soul.
Goya makes a nice one. I bet you could eat a boot soul marinated in that stuff.JinxRemoving wrote:With the right marinade, it can be a pretty sexy cut...goosekiller wrote:For some reason i feel like making love to a flank steak. Gee, thanks.JinxRemoving wrote:I have never been hunting (other than fishing, and holy crap do I love fish ) but assuming you are eating your kill, culling overpopulated heards (a single shot seems more humane than starvation) and performing some benefit for humans at a sustainable cost for the wildlife, then good on ya.
The issue comes when playing cowboys-and-buffalo-- possibly one of the most embarrassing and disgusting chapters in our nation's history of wildlife stewardship.
I'll be travelling through the south in a few weeks, and i have to say-- I'd love to take down some nutria while in Louisiana... apparently there is some $$ in that for pest control, as well as lovely, non-anally-electrocuted fur.
I have to say that vegans, in general, piss me off. It is such a first world problem, to struggle with not eating animal products so you can feel morally superior about your choices. To me, it is like abstaining from sex to keep yourself pure-- yes, you can do it, but to what end? Our mortal coils were meant to experience the depth and breadth of the short lives we are granted, be it a flank steak or lovemaking, and to artificially deny yourself any of it is a luxury that those closer to the edge of survival simply don't have.
I would rather indulge in both, but knowing the consequences of my actions and behaving in a responsible, mature, and aware manner, rather than a blanket asceticism that robs the soul.
punkinlobber wrote:That's why the ladies love the hunters. They always eat what they shoot!
The turkeys that were introduced to CA are not native to CA. But there is a species of turkey that was native to CA that is extinct.larrymod wrote:My understanding is they are not native west of the Rockies. They were introduced in California specifically for hunting, then naturalized here.goosekiller wrote:Wild turkeys are native.larrymod wrote:edible species that are not native here and are becoming a nuisance (wild turkey or feral pig).
Extinct turkey tastes gamey.OldCrow wrote: It is thus apparent that, at a minimum, California once hosted the ancestor to today's Wild Turkey. This is very different than any of the other introduced birds in the state which evolved long distances away. Equally interesting, it appears that California Turkey was an isolated population in southwestern California around today's Los Angeles. It was intermediate in size between the small M. crassipes [known from Kansas & Arizona] and M. gallopavo. Its entire known range did not extent north of today's Santa Barbara Co. nor south of Orange Co. (the Orange Co. fossil is a probable i.d. only).
Actually I have, here in Colorado had first hand experience with people doing it on/around our property. This was a couple of decades ago, but there were some people looking for coyotes that would kill the deer, take the prize (if it was a buck) and throw the remains into a barrel to attract coyotes. Pretty fucked up and against the law, but it does happen.mahkagari wrote:Anyone have first or second hand experience with this actually happening? TMK, at least in CO, leaving consumable parts will bump your charges up to a felony and you can kiss ever getting a license again goodbye. In AK, you MUST pack out the meat BEFORE packing out your trophy. If a grizz makes off with your trophy while you're packing out your meat, it's your tough luck.Hynes57 wrote:Now i have no problem donating the meat to the local food bank or something like that but do cut the trophies of and leave the rest in the field....
Everyone deplores the hunter who will take his trophy and leave the rest to rot, but how often does that occur? Taking a trophy is difficult enough as it is. How many have the discipline to get something prizeworthy but lack ethics enough to leave the meat behind?
For me, I'm a carnivore and a tightwad and if you think I'm gonna leave roastable haunches in the field yer out of yer tree. Even if it's from a tough old bull, giving the sausage away to feed friends and family while bragging about how hardwon it was is half the experience.
Curious as I always hear the statement condemning people wasting meat, but no one's ever given me an example. More often, I hear complaints of the DOW confiscating meat of moose mistaken for elk or cows mistaken for bulls. Sure, whether it was an honest mistake or not, they still broke the law, but the complaint is in losing their meat, not their trophy.
The closest example was someone telling me of coming upon a rotted carcass while hiking that someone had "obviously just taken the head and hide". When I quizzed him if it really was "left to rot" or if the rot was actually a gut pile and leftovers from someone boning out their kill, he couldn't say.
Wow.mahkagari wrote:Bumping this as there seems to be more people checking in to tell you evil hunters what horrible beings you are for not waiting until you are on the brink of starvation before hunting and actually having the audacity to ENJOY putting your skills to practical use. People need to know this thread exists just to centralize all the reasons you are despicable.
Personally, I don't hunt, fish yes. I fall into the "if you kill it you eat it" group....slight over simplification maybe, but I have a belief all animals have a right to life. Therefore, for me the compelling reason is the need to survive and in that state the taking of a life is acceptable. I also believe we are the apex predator on this planet. I usually avoid this section since I really don't have anything to add, and I don't intend to criticise anyone who is a hunter nor do I want to evaluate their reasons. We all live with ourselves and our actions are our own. I may not be very welcoming if an intro smacks or hints at a disregard for the life of animals, but that's my business. By not welcoming, I mean I won't say anything. Peace brothers, I'll not participate on this section further, not because I feel anything negative, but I have nothing further to say.nhaP wrote:Wow indeed. I believe that post was directed at me.
I got a warning for "concern trolling" even though my post doesn't really fit any definition of concern trolling as I understand it.
What I did was express a strongly held opinion. I don't kill animals. I think it's morally wrong to kill any animal that you're not going to eat or that isn't threatening immediate harm (of course the Zimmerman rule applies, where if you do something stupid and get an animal angry, you probably deserve the harm).
Perhaps my post would have been a better fit in this thread. But aren't the pro-hunters concern trolling in this thread?
That may have been a slightly over the top interpretation of the rules.nhaP wrote:Wow indeed. I believe that post was directed at me.
I got a warning for "concern trolling" even though my post doesn't really fit any definition of concern trolling as I understand it.
What I did was express a strongly held opinion. I don't kill animals. I think it's morally wrong to kill any animal that you're not going to eat or that isn't threatening immediate harm (of course the Zimmerman rule applies, where if you do something stupid and get an animal angry, you probably deserve the harm).
Perhaps my post would have been a better fit in this thread. But aren't the pro-hunters concern trolling in this thread?
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