What do you folks make of this?
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=55710
I have a Garand incoming, but I ran into some ammo at Bass Pro. I knew that I needed to shoot 150gr ammo, but I missed the powder argument.
Now the rifle I have coming to me does have an adjustable gas plug, but the setting it's currently at makes it single shot (or so I am told), and I really want to get the full experience.
Thoughts from you Garand wizards?
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2I'm also waiting on a CMP Garand. I just ordered up box of the loose Greek stuff from CMP, which I've since received.
Why is your Garand coming with an adjustable plug? I didn't know that you could do that from CMP?
I looked through the thread but I had a hard time making much sense of it. I'll be interested to learn what you hear from others here.
By the way, is the Garand you have on order a CMP special, or is it one of the other grades? And, when did you put in your order? My order went out in August, and they warned it would be 120-160 days or something like that.
Can't wait.....
Why is your Garand coming with an adjustable plug? I didn't know that you could do that from CMP?
I looked through the thread but I had a hard time making much sense of it. I'll be interested to learn what you hear from others here.
By the way, is the Garand you have on order a CMP special, or is it one of the other grades? And, when did you put in your order? My order went out in August, and they warned it would be 120-160 days or something like that.
Can't wait.....
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3Private seller C&R, right place at right time.beaurrr wrote:I'm also waiting on a CMP Garand. I just ordered up box of the loose Greek stuff from CMP, which I've since received.
Why is your Garand coming with an adjustable plug? I didn't know that you could do that from CMP?
I looked through the thread but I had a hard time making much sense of it. I'll be interested to learn what you hear from others here.
By the way, is the Garand you have on order a CMP special, or is it one of the other grades? And, when did you put in your order? My order went out in August, and they warned it would be 120-160 days or something like that.
Can't wait.....
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4If it's set now so that it doesn't cycle, then you should be able to twist the adjuster bit by bit, trying a shot each time, until it cycles properly. That's what the adjustable gas plug is for. Increase gas until it works. That's how you keep from getting too much gas, which is what mangles rifles.
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5Yeah, did some more reading on the adjustable plug. Guess I have some work to do when it gets here.Fukshot wrote:If it's set now so that it doesn't cycle, then you should be able to twist the adjuster bit by bit, trying a shot each time, until it cycles properly. That's what the adjustable gas plug is for. Increase gas until it works. That's how you keep from getting too much gas, which is what mangles rifles.
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7Yeah. I will, when it arrives, have basically all three of the standard service rifles that won the second world war. That pleases me.
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8Here is a good article on the advisability of shooting commercial hunting ammo in an M1 Garand.
http://www.garandgear.com/index.php?opt ... d&catid=39
Now, they're trying to sell their particular ported gas plug, but still, the article has some good comparative measurements and data.
So is there really a danger of damaging your op rod? Opinions are all over the map on this. I come down on the side of caution, and shoot only M2 Ball or commercial ammo that closely mirrors M2 Ball specs -- like this stuff, which I quite like:
http://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi-part ... ammo-pp347
However, I suspect you would be OK shooting most commercial stuff, as long as you stay away from elephant loads. But why chance it?
On a lark, I just ordered a Garand Gear ported gas plug, and might give it a try. I also have a Schuster gas plug somewhere that I have never installed.
http://www.garandgear.com/index.php?opt ... d&catid=39
Now, they're trying to sell their particular ported gas plug, but still, the article has some good comparative measurements and data.
So is there really a danger of damaging your op rod? Opinions are all over the map on this. I come down on the side of caution, and shoot only M2 Ball or commercial ammo that closely mirrors M2 Ball specs -- like this stuff, which I quite like:
http://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi-part ... ammo-pp347
However, I suspect you would be OK shooting most commercial stuff, as long as you stay away from elephant loads. But why chance it?
On a lark, I just ordered a Garand Gear ported gas plug, and might give it a try. I also have a Schuster gas plug somewhere that I have never installed.
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9That is where I come down on the subject. Why chance it.Elmo wrote: However, I suspect you would be OK shooting most commercial stuff, as long as you stay away from elephant loads. But why chance it?
Even with the test data at the linked website...and that is a great website...you have to remember that the pressure of factory ammo can change from lot to lot.
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10Yeah, got the rifle, looked at the gas plug, will do the right thing and work it up to the right pressure with 1/4 turns.
It's going to be cold on Sunday.
It's going to be cold on Sunday.
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11You'll be glad you're wearing a heavy coat to soak up some of the recoil.Inquisitor wrote:Yeah, got the rifle, looked at the gas plug, will do the right thing and work it up to the right pressure with 1/4 turns.
It's going to be cold on Sunday.
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12Meh, between the Mosin and the Enfield, the M1 is a pussycat.Simmer down wrote:You'll be glad you're wearing a heavy coat to soak up some of the recoil.Inquisitor wrote:Yeah, got the rifle, looked at the gas plug, will do the right thing and work it up to the right pressure with 1/4 turns.
It's going to be cold on Sunday.
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13Inquisitor wrote:Meh, between the Mosin and the Enfield, the M1 is a pussycat.Simmer down wrote:You'll be glad you're wearing a heavy coat to soak up some of the recoil.Inquisitor wrote:Yeah, got the rifle, looked at the gas plug, will do the right thing and work it up to the right pressure with 1/4 turns.
It's going to be cold on Sunday.
Yeah...but you'll end up shooting more rounds with the Garand...
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14I was smarter than I thought.
I bought federal power shok 150s not the Remington's (I got Remington for the enfield).
According to this link
http://www.garandgear.com/index.php?opt ... d&catid=39
The federal stuff is Garand safe?
I bought federal power shok 150s not the Remington's (I got Remington for the enfield).
According to this link
http://www.garandgear.com/index.php?opt ... d&catid=39
The federal stuff is Garand safe?
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15When you get it, give a report - I've been thinking about one of those, and the data on the website looks convincing, but I haven't seen much in the way of real world info on how it works.Elmo wrote:On a lark, I just ordered a Garand Gear ported gas plug, and might give it a try. I also have a Schuster gas plug somewhere that I have never installed.
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16That particular lot was safe. There is no guaranty that Federal won't change the load at some point. I would not trust my Garand to anything that was not specifically listed as "Garand-safe".Inquisitor wrote:
The federal stuff is Garand safe?
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17Fair enough.Mustang wrote:That particular lot was safe. There is no guaranty that Federal won't change the load at some point. I would not trust my Garand to anything that was not specifically listed as "Garand-safe".Inquisitor wrote:
The federal stuff is Garand safe?
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18Inquisitor wrote:I was smarter than I thought.
I bought federal power shok 150s not the Remington's (I got Remington for the enfield).
According to this link
http://www.garandgear.com/index.php?opt ... d&catid=39
The federal stuff is Garand safe?
Federal does make a Garand friendly load, but it is marked as such on the box.