*NOT STEEL CASED* what does this mean
1Does this make the ammo inferior? I noticed all of the lowest priced stuff has this disclaimer.
Ahhh, so it's a good thing then. Thanks both of you for the info.Fukshot wrote:The really cheap stuff is steel cased. Some people thing there's something wrong with that. The stuff you are looking at is bragging that it's the cheap stuff but not the really cheap stuff.
senorgrand wrote:Most ranges concerned with steel core ammo just ban steel cased ammo because it's easier than inspecting every round.
That's our rule, too. We run the magnet over the bullets, and so, for example, Hornady Steel Match ammo is allowed at our range 'cause there's no steel in the projectile. There's also one type of Wolf ammo that we allow that uses a straight copper (not bi-metal) jacket. As long as the bullet's not magnetic, we allow it.Merle wrote: Probably true, but the only range I have ever been to that banned steel jacket/core passed a magnet over the bullet, but ignored the case. The range master said the case wasn't a concern, as it doesn't go down range. I don't doubt that different ranges have different policies.
Is it normal for you to inspect ammo at your range? This has never happened to me at any range I've shot at.CowboyT wrote:That's our rule, too. We run the magnet over the bullets, and so, for example, Hornady Steel Match ammo is allowed at our range 'cause there's no steel in the projectile. There's also one type of Wolf ammo that we allow that uses a straight copper (not bi-metal) jacket. As long as the bullet's not magnetic, we allow it.
Regarding the reloading of steel cases, I just did it with Boxer-primed steel Wolf cases in .45 Auto. It works just fine.
There is also some brass-cased ammo that we don't allow because of either the bi-metal jacket or the steel core. Examples include M855 and SS109 5.56 NATO ammo (banned), but the XM193 is just fine. This is why the (increasingly rare nowadays) Yugoslavian 7.62x39 milsurp corrosive ammo is so popular at a lot of ranges that ban steel *anything*. It's totally non-magnetic.
The local range here has a sign up reserving the right to inspect everything. Gun, ammo, bag, hearing protection....all of it.JerseyDog wrote:
Is it normal for you to inspect ammo at your range? This has never happened to me at any range I've shot at.
It won't damage an AR as long as it's a quality AR.curtism1234 wrote:I don't shoot these kinds of guns, but a lot of people will not shoot steel anything (case or jacket) in quality / expensive rifles like a AR because it is said to damage them. People with sks and ak's are more likely to use them because they do not care.
Don't know if it's true, but I'm just saying
What exactly happens in that video. Based on the elapsed time between the shot and then it hitting him the slug had to have traveled quite a distance in one direction before ricocheting back. In reality what's the odds of this happening? 1 in 1,000?Awake wrote:The reason that I have been given that steel cored ammo is not allowed is that it damages backstops, and more importantly it can be dangerous because it can ricochet if it hits steel.
[youtu_be]http://youtu.be/VyhgC4wF7MU[/youtu_be]
Yep, it is. We've found several examples of ammo with steel-containing bullets (jacket or core), and we have to say no. Most people respect that rule. There've been a few "honest mistakes" that really were just that. In such cases, we just hold that ammo in the observation area till they're done shooting. There've been a few folks, though, that have put the Tulammo rounds in the American Eagle boxes, trying to fool us. These folks get caught and are directed to leave the range. Additionally, management is notified just in case the customer decides to become agitated. We are very serious about this rule.JerseyDog wrote: Is it normal for you to inspect ammo at your range? This has never happened to me at any range I've shot at.
Anyone?don1960lp wrote: What exactly happens in that video.
don1960lp wrote:Anyone?don1960lp wrote: What exactly happens in that video.
That part I get but how the heck does a bullet fly that far in one direction only to do a complete 180 and come straight back to the source?Merle wrote:don1960lp wrote:Anyone?don1960lp wrote: What exactly happens in that video.
A ricochet came back & took the hat off his head.
don1960lp wrote:That part I get but how the heck does a bullet fly that far in one direction only to do a complete 180 and come straight back to the source?Merle wrote:don1960lp wrote:Anyone?don1960lp wrote: What exactly happens in that video.
A ricochet came back & took the hat off his head.
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