Interesting bit, author purposefully demonstrates Garand thumb, slow-mo video and gif slideshows.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014 ... and-thumb/
Best part is demo on how to properly load the garand to avoid the above.
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2I used to be all scaredy about this, but then I realized that by using the blade of my hand to keep the bolt from slamming shut after I lock in a clip makes it impossible to get the "thumb". Not only that, but usually the bolt doesn't just release with full force; it usually starts kind of slowly, then picks up steam. Sometimes it even takes a little rap with my palm.
Did I understand that he deliberately gave himself Garand Thumb? Why in the hell would somebody do that?
ps. all you would-be M1 owners, please proceed with your plans to buy one of these fine rifles. Forget all about that Garand thumb thingy. Totally oversold.
Did I understand that he deliberately gave himself Garand Thumb? Why in the hell would somebody do that?
ps. all you would-be M1 owners, please proceed with your plans to buy one of these fine rifles. Forget all about that Garand thumb thingy. Totally oversold.
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3I've done that before and the gif gives me the willies yet I can't turn away from it.
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4They have a gif there in full speed and that AIN'T pretty. The only Garand thumb I want is a Garand Thumbs Up
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5Trust me; it's easy peasy to avoid it. Just use the blade of your hand as you insert the clip and you're good to go.
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6garand thumb is extremely hazardous, painful and bad for you! (more garands for me)
i'm retired. what's your excuse?
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7There you go giving them false hope. Everyone knows that the risk of losing your whole arm is high. Many a poor Garand owner has had their right arm chewed off by the vicious Garand bolt- it's an evil, evil creature that must be approached cautiously. One mistake and BANG. New name is stumpy.beaurrr wrote:Trust me; it's easy peasy to avoid it. Just use the blade of your hand as you insert the clip and you're good to go.
Nice to see it in slow mo.
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9Of course, if you own both a Garand and a Glock, you are doomed to a life of crippledom.
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10I'm pretty sure that any discussion and experimentation about avoiding or getting Garand thumb will empty my wallet. Why am I shopping for turret presses? Dang.
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11I agree it's easy to avoid in a no-stress environment at the shooting range. I could see where it would be a problem reloading from the prone while enemy soldiers are shooting at you.beaurrr wrote:Trust me; it's easy peasy to avoid it. Just use the blade of your hand as you insert the clip and you're good to go.
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12In looking at mine, I think it's actually pretty unlikely to get it when you are loading, because the cartridge will push your thumb out of the way. It's really easy, though, to think it is locked open when the bolt is really hung up on the follower, so when you touch it, it closes with nothing there to move your thumb. Like the video above.
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13Your right I learned how not to get a. M1 Thumb when closing the bolt back in 1967. Watched a buddy in Jr.ROTC get a M1 thump going to port arms after inspection arms what was worse he let go of the rifle with his left hand and the rifle was left dangling from his thumb.RoastinginAZ wrote:In looking at mine, I think it's actually pretty unlikely to get it when you are loading, because the cartridge will push your thumb out of the way. It's really easy, though, to think it is locked open when the bolt is really hung up on the follower, so when you touch it, it closes with nothing there to move your thumb. Like the video above.
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14I still prefer the loading method in the "Book of the M1 Garand."
Place your thumb on the neck of the top-most cartridge, not the sides of the enblock. If you are holding that cartridge in place it is physically impossible for the bolt to come forward. Press down firmly till you hear the clip lock into place and continue applying pressure. Then, in one motion, remove your thumb expeditiously.
Place your thumb on the neck of the top-most cartridge, not the sides of the enblock. If you are holding that cartridge in place it is physically impossible for the bolt to come forward. Press down firmly till you hear the clip lock into place and continue applying pressure. Then, in one motion, remove your thumb expeditiously.
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15That's the technique I use, and I believe the U.S. military taught. I've never had my thumb caught in a normal load of a full clip, and I believe it is nearly impossible using this technique.ZAZ wrote:I still prefer the loading method in the "Book of the M1 Garand."
Place your thumb on the neck of the top-most cartridge, not the sides of the enblock. If you are holding that cartridge in place it is physically impossible for the bolt to come forward. Press down firmly till you hear the clip lock into place and continue applying pressure. Then, in one motion, remove your thumb expeditiously.
I have been caught, or come close, doing less common things, like loading a clip with less than 8 rounds. I believe the military trained soldiers not to do that -- just eject the partially loaded clip using the unload button and then load a full clip.
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16From The Box O Truth:
link to BOT #62:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/educational ... -1-garand/
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link to BOT #62:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/educational ... -1-garand/
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17I shiver every time I see someone load a Garand like that. I know it works, but the idea of slowing the bolt with your palm so it does not have enough momentum to strip the first cartridge, then slapping it forward just goes against every fiber of my being...
Bolts and slides are just supposed to travel into battery in one uninterrupted motion. Just because. The laws of nature and all that is good dictates it or something.
Bolts and slides are just supposed to travel into battery in one uninterrupted motion. Just because. The laws of nature and all that is good dictates it or something.
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18I see it as using all pressure down with the thumb, with the four fingers just sliding along the stock--no back pressure on the bolt, just hanging out there if you trip it too quickly. Everything should work as designed with full spring action. I figure to get a clip of dummies so I can mess around.ZAZ wrote:I shiver every time I see someone load a Garand like that. I know it works, but the idea of slowing the bolt with your palm so it does not have enough momentum to strip the first cartridge, then slapping it forward just goes against every fiber of my being...
Bolts and slides are just supposed to travel into battery in one uninterrupted motion. Just because. The laws of nature and all that is good dictates it or something.
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19That's how I do it and I have not had a single problem. Ever. Even inserting the clip without "palming" it still results, depending on the rifle, in the bolt starting slowly, then quickly building speed. Some snap shut at lightning speed, others need a slap.
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