How Republicans have seen red over the Green New Deal

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Republicans have claimed Ocasio-Cortez’s congressional resolutions will mean the end of ice cream, hamburgers and the US military. Where are they getting it from?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... n-new-deal
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the American political right’s objet socialiste du jour, recently introduced a Green New Deal – a joint Congressional resolution with Democratic senator Ed Markey calling for a “10-year national mobilization” overhauling nearly every aspect of American society to drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Those who have read through it will find a hopeful and ambitious but dry legislative document.

However, Ocasio-Cortez says that all Democratic presidential candidates support the Green New Deal, which has sent conservatives into a nonsensical tailspin, claiming it would mean the end of ice cream, hamburgers and the US military.

Much of the opposition isn’t based on the text of the deal at all, but a draft FAQ that was released by Ocasio-Cortez’s office before they quickly retracted it, saying it “doesn’t represent the GND resolution”.

Here’s a roundup:


-A Fox News op-ed says that the Green New Deal “would eliminate millions of jobs in the oil, gas, and coal industries by banning nearly all fossil fuel use in just 10 years”.

-Senator Marsha Blackburn told the Fox News Business Network that under the proposals “you couldn’t go grab a steak or a hamburger” because Ocasio-Cortez wanted to “end that cattle farming”.

-Senator John Barrasso said the deal would mean the end of milkshakes and ice cream. “There’s another victim of the Green New Deal, it’s ice cream! Livestock will be banned. Say goodbye to dairy, to beef, to family farms, to ranches. American favorites like cheeseburgers and milkshake would become a thing of the past.”

-Liz Cheney, the Wyoming congresswomen, said the bill would probably outlaw the entire US military.

-Perhaps the most bizarre claim came from the co-hosts of Fox & Friends: the deal will “build trains over oceans” or even “under the water” to cut emissions.



In actuality, the proposed resolution doesn’t mention any regulations or bans whatsoever. It mostly provides broad ideological goals for legislation to aim towards, such as “guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage” for all workers.

Corbin Trent, Ocasio-Cortez’s director of communications, has since said that the goal is to reach net zero emissions, rather than no emissions at all, “because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast”.
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Re: How Republicans have seen red over the Green New Deal

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Sometimes I do worry about the prematurely forced end of petroleum availability. One of the few really nice things I still have is the first car that I bought when I started my first real job, the only new car I've ever owned 15 years into my "career" in IT. I drive it a few weekends each year and it makes me feel a little better about how my life has turned out. But I also have a beater I use to get to work to pay for, among other things, the garage that the nice car sits in.

The talk about hybrid and electric cars, at least in my part of PA, is just talk. Nobody sells them, nobody drives them, nobody makes them, nobody has facilities for them. Oh, and they cost a fortune. I feel like when "the market" (AKA rich assholes) decides it doesn't feel like letting me drive a gas powered car anymore (or, further out, a manually controlled car), I won't have any options at all.

I won't be able to get to work to make a living, let alone relieve a little stress with a pleasant Sunday drive. The rich just can't let decent people alone. They aren't happy unless we're jobless, homeless, immobilized, starving, and miserable. Hateful monsters, the lot of them.
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Re: How Republicans have seen red over the Green New Deal

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I have the same concern about Green, in general. What you described is problems with the status quo. I have co-workers (who are paid much more) driving electric BMWs and Prius, etc. They will have no problem buying solar panels or electric cars. The rest of us? Not so much. That is the current system. And remember that gas prices were essentially flat ($1-2) until they jumped up (almost triple here) and now that is the new normal.

Electric cars have to become as affordable as low-MPG inexpensive cars and the batteries have to last longer or be inexpensive to replace. Solar panels have to make financial sense (like CFL then LED bulbs) for people to install and use. I think that the point of the GND is to make these things affordable. In my view, it should provide jobs programs for our crumbling infrastructure and for cleaner energy for cleaner air and water.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Turbo07 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:13 pm Sometimes I do worry about the prematurely forced end of petroleum availability. One of the few really nice things I still have is the first car that I bought when I started my first real job, the only new car I've ever owned 15 years into my "career" in IT. I drive it a few weekends each year and it makes me feel a little better about how my life has turned out. But I also have a beater I use to get to work to pay for, among other things, the garage that the nice car sits in.

The talk about hybrid and electric cars, at least in my part of PA, is just talk. Nobody sells them, nobody drives them, nobody makes them, nobody has facilities for them. Oh, and they cost a fortune. I feel like when "the market" (AKA rich assholes) decides it doesn't feel like letting me drive a gas powered car anymore (or, further out, a manually controlled car), I won't have any options at all.

I won't be able to get to work to make a living, let alone relieve a little stress with a pleasant Sunday drive. The rich just can't let decent people alone. They aren't happy unless we're jobless, homeless, immobilized, starving, and miserable. Hateful monsters, the lot of them.
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