I've got a 686+ 4" with Altamont wooden grip, and that thing kicks like a bastard. That's a full-size, all steel, L-frame revolver. I have an 8" m.27 N-frame and a 6" Gp100 that kick less, but those are bigger guns and the Ruger has the rubber all around the grip. The Blackhawk, also a bigger gun, doesn't kick much, but the single action grips cause it to rock upwards. I have notice that thin mechanics gloves make the recoil more manageable.
What I am wondering is how do people handle those small-frame .357 revolvers like the S&W model 60 or the SP101,to say nothing of the airweight model?
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2I would never recommend a .357 in an Airweight revolver. It's just too much to handle. On the other hand, I can manage my SP101 just fine. I replaced the grip with an Uncle Mike's boot grip (no snag and a nice big palm swell). When I carry it, I usually have it loaded 110 grain JHPs to mitigate some of the recoil. My only other recommendation is to practice enough to get used to it. Some handle recoil better than others...
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3Yeah, I'd avoid very light .357 revolvers also.
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4I have a Taurus 617-Ti 7-shot Titanium .357-Magnum Revolver. While not exactly an Airweight, it a heck of a lot lighter than all steel. Yet I can shoot 357 defensive rounds in it with no problem. And despite it being a snubby, I can actually shoot it fairly accurately. On the other hand, I had a S&W 640 pro-series stainless. The 2 times I fired defensive 357s in it, it felt like my palm had been ripped open. There was a big red welt across my palm. No thank you.dcramer64 wrote:I would never recommend a .357 in an Airweight revolver. It's just too much to handle.
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5Because I don't like numbness in the hand and fingers, I try to avoid the lightweight .357s. I'd be more inclined to shoot .38sp +P long before I'd carry .357 as my defensive round.
Hogue does make some nice rubberize grips that will mitigate the recoil, but shooting full-house rounds through a snubby just really isn't me cuppa.
Hogue does make some nice rubberize grips that will mitigate the recoil, but shooting full-house rounds through a snubby just really isn't me cuppa.
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6Recoil in revolvers can easily be mitigated by finding a grip that fits and using a load that works for your situation.
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7Deep13, try the Hogues on your 686, they are great on that platform and inexpensive.atxgunguy wrote:Because I don't like numbness in the hand and fingers, I try to avoid the lightweight .357s. I'd be more inclined to shoot .38sp +P long before I'd carry .357 as my defensive round.
Hogue does make some nice rubberize grips that will mitigate the recoil, but shooting full-house rounds through a snubby just really isn't me cuppa.
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8The factory Hogues that came on my 686 are great. Granted, it's also a 6" barrel so recoil is already helped before it gets back to me.justinf wrote:Deep13, try the Hogues on your 686, they are great on that platform and inexpensive.atxgunguy wrote:Because I don't like numbness in the hand and fingers, I try to avoid the lightweight .357s. I'd be more inclined to shoot .38sp +P long before I'd carry .357 as my defensive round.
Hogue does make some nice rubberize grips that will mitigate the recoil, but shooting full-house rounds through a snubby just really isn't me cuppa.
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9I have the 686+ in 3 inch. I change the Hogues out for Uncle Mikes to get a smaller grip for CCW. I have no problem with the recoil. Try changing to rubber grips that absorb more of the recoil.
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10I don't even like .38 Special out of Airweights, but a mild .357 in a steel J-frame isn't bad at all. I could shoot Remington Golden Sabers (125 grain) all day with a 640 or a Kimber K6. Of course, they're only doing about 1100fps from a snubnose-- that's about the max I would want to handle. Buffalo Bore makes a 125 grain Barnes load that does 1600fps... yeesh! Not for me.
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11Another SP 101 here, w/3" barrel in .357. I changed the grips to larger pao ferro grips- there's a picture of in the gun porn thread. I can manage it just fine with .357 loads, but if I get distracted and lighten my grip, it'll punish me. If I keep a very firm grip, I'm OK. But I mean FIRM. I can't imagine shooting .357 in anything lighter, honestly. The larger grip helps, I think- more area to distribute the oomph.
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12I used to have an SP101 with 2-1/4" barrel. Shooting it with 158 grain .357 loads was similar to shooting my 4" .44 mag. It stings a little but it's tolerable. I have no desire to shoot an ultra light revolver like an LCR with magnum loads.
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13The factory rubber Hogue grips help somewhat, but it is still an exposed back strap. I suppose self defend rounds would help too as I usually shoot the 158 sjsp. I like the wooden Altamont grips because it doesn't snag clothes.
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15I was drinking over here. Someone will have to clean this up...Marlene wrote:Little 357s are for women. Men can’t handle the pain.
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16I’ll be right there. I just cleaned up over here...
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17I resemble that remark.Marlene wrote:Little 357s are for women. Men can’t handle the pain.
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18I've heard as much. Still, if it hurts, isn't it causing damage?Marlene wrote:Little 357s are for women. Men can’t handle the pain.
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19No. I mean yes, if something is causing damage it'd probably hurt, but pain doesn't necessarily mean damage. Impact pain in your palm is fine. Wrist pain from snapping up probably isn't great and you shouldn't be letting your wrist move that violently.
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20I've found over the years with good grips and a proper hold any gun can be pleasant and easily shot. Wrist snapping doesn't work for me, thats why I use the improved weaver stance, not the weaver or isosceles stance.
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21This is my only .357 snubbie-
At 25 ounces it's not exactly a lightweight, and the design makes firing .357 SD ammo a doddle. Even so I load .38 Special Buffalo Bore LSWCHPs because they work well and perceived recoil is trivial in this gun, allowing for very accurate rapid-fire.
At 25 ounces it's not exactly a lightweight, and the design makes firing .357 SD ammo a doddle. Even so I load .38 Special Buffalo Bore LSWCHPs because they work well and perceived recoil is trivial in this gun, allowing for very accurate rapid-fire.
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22senorgrand wrote:I resemble that remark.Marlene wrote:Little 357s are for women. Men can’t handle the pain.
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23The little Ruger LCP hurts my hand more than a .357 snubbie K-frame.
I don't find the .357 painful in anything I've shot -- but I've also never had the opportunity to shoot an airweight or similar, just steel.
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I don't find the .357 painful in anything I've shot -- but I've also never had the opportunity to shoot an airweight or similar, just steel.
Regards,
Josh
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24So what is this thing?TinkerPearce wrote:This is my only .357 snubbie-
At 25 ounces it's not exactly a lightweight, and the design makes firing .357 SD ammo a doddle. Even so I load .38 Special Buffalo Bore LSWCHPs because they work well and perceived recoil is trivial in this gun, allowing for very accurate rapid-fire.
Thanks!
Josh
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25This is a Chiappa Rhino 200 DS. It's a six-shot .357 Magnum designed by the same fellow that designed the Mateba revolvers. The barrel is at the 6-o'clock position relative to the cylinder instead of the 12-o'clock position. This places the bore inline with the large bones of the arm so recoil is delivered straight back instead of twisting the gun upwards. This minimizes muzzle-flip and allows the gun to stay more on-target. It's bulky-looking, but it's footprint is actually the same as a J-frame S&W.Wabatuckian wrote:
So what is this thing?
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