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Episode 11 is up. Last time, I presented my Dad's views on things, including so-called "assault weapons". As I have pointed out previously, Dad and I don't agree on all things.

The notion of so-called "assault weapons" is one of them. Now that you've heard his views, here are mine.

Title: "The Dangers of Banning So-Called Assault Weapons"

http://liberalsguncorner.com/2013/02/23 ... t-weapons/

Enjoy.
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If I had more juice on my phone I would have listened while riding the bus to "the train/found out trains are being tested/shuttle bus/wrong exit of shuttle bus/shuttle bus to operating station/pick up ALL of the fans of the Blues/finally get to work"...

Damnit, if I leave my feedback after listening I'll just sound like a fanboy. :lol:
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Episode 12 is now up.

This time, we take on what is likely to be a rather incendiary topic: Liberalism vs. Libertarianism.

http://liberalsguncorner.com/2013/03/10 ... -nowadays/

This is my case for why American Libertarianism is a good idea, but in practice has some unfilled gaps, needed by Libaralism, to fill.

It's also a bit of my case for why we as Liberals would do very well to embrace our Libertarian brethren, because I find there's a whole lot of overlap between Liberalism and Libertarianism. The Libertarians have some good ideas, and they've got a lot of really good points. I submit that we are natural allies in many ways and should use that more than we do.
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I think there are definitley some that do, and we are far apart on some issues. With that being said, three of my best friends are libertarian, of varying degrees, and we get along pretty well. In fact one is way more on the liberal side than the conservative side.

We all agree on the gun control issues, civil liberties, drug policy, defense spending cuts, and some other big issues- far apart on some of the social policy issues for sure, but in truth, they aren't quite as far off as a first glance would show on all of them.

My $.02 anyway

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shinzen wrote:I think there are definitley some that do, and we are far apart on some issues. With that being said, three of my best friends are libertarian, of varying degrees, and we get along pretty well. In fact one is way more on the liberal side than the conservative side.

We all agree on the gun control issues, civil liberties, drug policy, defense spending cuts, and some other big issues- far apart on some of the social policy issues for sure, but in truth, they aren't quite as far off as a first glance would show on all of them.

My $.02 anyway

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The biggest disagreement I have with Ron Paul and many libertarians is that they believe that you can let corporations do whatever the hell they want. We tried that in the latter half of the 1800's and the latter half of the 1900's and the same things happened each time. The robber barons wrapped their tentacles around our government and exploited the workers unmercifully. With the economy going through extreme ups and downs and the country involved ln wars of expansion and influence while are natural resources were exploited for the benefit of the wealthy.

If we could convince the libertarians that there is a hell of a difference between a small business with under 50 employees and a huge corporation that employs thousands and influences the lives of millions. Just as there is no comparison between the small farmer and the corporate farmer. If we could make them see these differences and make them understand that only government has the power to rein in corporations for the benefit of average Joe and Jill, then maybe we could join forces. Otherwise, not so much. Corporations are the entities that are driving us to our doom. They just use the far right whack jobs to advance their own agendas.

I'll look forward to listening to CowboyT's take on it.
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flzhunter wrote:
shinzen wrote:I think there are definitley some that do, and we are far apart on some issues. With that being said, three of my best friends are libertarian, of varying degrees, and we get along pretty well. In fact one is way more on the liberal side than the conservative side.

We all agree on the gun control issues, civil liberties, drug policy, defense spending cuts, and some other big issues- far apart on some of the social policy issues for sure, but in truth, they aren't quite as far off as a first glance would show on all of them.

My $.02 anyway

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The biggest disagreement I have with Ron Paul and many libertarians is that they believe that you can let corporations do whatever the hell they want. We tried that in the latter half of the 1800's and the latter half of the 1900's and the same things happened each time. The robber barons wrapped their tentacles around our government and exploited the workers unmercifully. With the economy going through extreme ups and downs and the country involved ln wars of expansion and influence while are natural resources were exploited for the benefit of the wealthy.

If we could convince the libertarians that there is a hell of a difference between a small business with under 50 employees and a huge corporation that employs thousands and influences the lives of millions. Just as there is no comparison between the small farmer and the corporate farmer. If we could make them see these differences and make them understand that only government has the power to rein in corporations for the benefit of average Joe and Jill, then maybe we could join forces. Otherwise, not so much. Corporations are the entities that are driving us to our doom. They just use the far right whack jobs to advance their own agendas.

I'll look forward to listening to CowboyT's take on it.
Totally agreed on the corporation part. Not all of them are pro-monopoly fortunately, and understand that subsidies that prop up behemoth corporations are actually antithetical to their philosophy. I think figuring out where we can agree on issues is important instead of dissmising them completely. It is a way forward on some important issues, even if we consider them looney-tunes on others!

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shinzen wrote:
flzhunter wrote:
shinzen wrote:I think there are definitley some that do, and we are far apart on some issues. With that being said, three of my best friends are libertarian, of varying degrees, and we get along pretty well. In fact one is way more on the liberal side than the conservative side.

We all agree on the gun control issues, civil liberties, drug policy, defense spending cuts, and some other big issues- far apart on some of the social policy issues for sure, but in truth, they aren't quite as far off as a first glance would show on all of them.

My $.02 anyway

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The biggest disagreement I have with Ron Paul and many libertarians is that they believe that you can let corporations do whatever the hell they want. We tried that in the latter half of the 1800's and the latter half of the 1900's and the same things happened each time. The robber barons wrapped their tentacles around our government and exploited the workers unmercifully. With the economy going through extreme ups and downs and the country involved ln wars of expansion and influence while are natural resources were exploited for the benefit of the wealthy.

If we could convince the libertarians that there is a hell of a difference between a small business with under 50 employees and a huge corporation that employs thousands and influences the lives of millions. Just as there is no comparison between the small farmer and the corporate farmer. If we could make them see these differences and make them understand that only government has the power to rein in corporations for the benefit of average Joe and Jill, then maybe we could join forces. Otherwise, not so much. Corporations are the entities that are driving us to our doom. They just use the far right whack jobs to advance their own agendas.

I'll look forward to listening to CowboyT's take on it.
Totally agreed on the corporation part. Not all of them are pro-monopoly fortunately, and understand that subsidies that prop up behemoth corporations are actually antithetical to their philosophy. I think figuring out where we can agree on issues is important instead of dissmising them completely. It is a way forward on some important issues, even if we consider them looney-tunes on others!

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Another commonality: each camp views the other camp as having some looney-tune view points. Perhaps that could also be another starting point? LOL Or not.
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flzhunter wrote: The biggest disagreement I have with Ron Paul and many libertarians is that they believe that you can let corporations do whatever the hell they want. We tried that in the latter half of the 1800's and the latter half of the 1900's and the same things happened each time. The robber barons wrapped their tentacles around our government and exploited the workers unmercifully. With the economy going through extreme ups and downs and the country involved ln wars of expansion and influence while are natural resources were exploited for the benefit of the wealthy.

If we could convince the libertarians that there is a hell of a difference between a small business with under 50 employees and a huge corporation that employs thousands and influences the lives of millions. Just as there is no comparison between the small farmer and the corporate farmer. If we could make them see these differences and make them understand that only government has the power to rein in corporations for the benefit of average Joe and Jill, then maybe we could join forces. Otherwise, not so much. Corporations are the entities that are driving us to our doom. They just use the far right whack jobs to advance their own agendas.

I'll look forward to listening to CowboyT's take on it.
I'm looking forward to hearing what you think. :-)
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In general, private ownership of guns for protection WAS a strong liberal position till the 1960's, when the anti-war activists adopted an anti gun "philosophy", which made inroads into the main stream liberal position...Back in the 1930's when there were REAL leftist in the US, gun ownership was often seen as a requirement for liberals and leftists to defend themselves against corporate goons and the police, and yes, even the military...Recall that those who destroyed the camp of the "Bonus Army" were regular US Army troops.

The Bonus Army was WWI vets who gathered with their families to demand payment of a long promised service bonus, that was a certificate not due to be paid till 1945. Congress had passed the bill to grant this bonus, but never bothered to actually PAY anyone, and the depression had put many thousands of vets out of work.

The former soldiers started a tent camp near Hoover's White House, and were ignored till they watched a large contingent of regular Army troops assemble -the protesters thought they were about to be honored for their service, but they were attacked and several were killed by US troops.

The attack was led by Douglas MacArthur, and other officers involved were Dwight Eisenhower and George Patton...

The more than 40,000 protesters had been peaceful and not violent and there were many wives and children in the camp at the time of the attack...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army


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dogngun wrote:In general, private ownership of guns for protection WAS a strong liberal position till the 1960's, when the anti-war activists adopted an anti gun "philosophy", which made inroads into the main stream liberal position...Back in the 1930's when there were REAL leftist in the US, gun ownership was often seen as a requirement for liberals and leftists to defend themselves against corporate goons and the police, and yes, even the military...Recall that those who destroyed the camp of the "Bonus Army" were regular US Army troops.

The Bonus Army was WWI vets who gathered with their families to demand payment of a long promised service bonus, that was a certificate not due to be paid till 1945. Congress had passed the bill to grant this bonus, but never bothered to actually PAY anyone, and the depression had put many thousands of vets out of work.

The former soldiers started a tent camp near Hoover's White House, and were ignored till they watched a large contingent of regular Army troops assemble -the protesters thought they were about to be honored for their service, but they were attacked and several were killed by US troops.

The attack was led by Douglas MacArthur, and other officers involved were Dwight Eisenhower and George Patton...

The more than 40,000 protesters had been peaceful and not violent and there were many wives and children in the camp at the time of the attack...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army


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I always find it interesting how history gets totally white-washed in this country- honestly it's repulsive how many things are left out of the school system, and what parts they choose to include. If you look in a history book for kids (working from memory here) you won't find any reference to how the unions created and strengthened the middle class, the atrocities committed by Columbus, or the evils we as a country have visited on various minority groups, other than a brief footnote in some cases. I would also bet that the above referenced action would not be found in any mainstream history book..... I suppose that victors write the official histories....
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shinzen wrote: I always find it interesting how history gets totally white-washed in this country- honestly it's repulsive how many things are left out of the school system, and what parts they choose to include. If you look in a history book for kids (working from memory here) you won't find any reference to how the unions created and strengthened the middle class, the atrocities committed by Columbus, or the evils we as a country have visited on various minority groups, other than a brief footnote in some cases. I would also bet that the above referenced action would not be found in any mainstream history book..... I suppose that victors write the official histories....
Interesting you say that...that's the stuff of the upcoming Episode 15. :-)
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Episode "Lucky 13" is now up.

http://liberalsguncorner.com/2013/03/17 ... rm-part-1/

This is a two-parter. We talk about "Choosing Your First Firearm". Why? There are so many new shooters that I'm seeing, and I keep hearing this is a nation-wide occurrence. Many of these new shooters are Liberals. Of those, a lot, I'm finding, are college-age and totally bewildered about what to choose.

Ergo, I thought perhaps a rangemaster's point of view might be useful.

This, part 1, discussses the basic handgun types and some recommendations, based on my observations over the last few years. Part 2, coming later, will discuss the long guns.
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Hey CowboyT I did agree with almost everything you had to say about Libertarians in podcast 12. The only thing I want to take issue with is your opinion on the national debt that you mentioned at the beginning of the podcast. I just posted a topic on the debt which is a review I wrote of a Harry Shearer interview with Dr. Kelton. Keep podcasting!
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Episode 14 is up.

http://liberalsguncorner.com/2013/03/31 ... rm-part-2/

This is the second part of the two-part series. We talk about the long guns this time, the plusses and minuses of each, and some recommendations based on some of my observations. Remember, this is about first firearm purchases for city and suburban residents. Out in the country, the situation may be different.
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Episode 15 is up. Title: Leverguns Chambered for Revolver Cartridges – Why They’re Good Tools

http://liberalsguncorner.com/2013/04/14 ... ood-tools/

Leverguns, leverguns…well, sometimes we just gotta talk leverguns, right? :-)

Well, the Cast Boolits forum sure thinks so, because that’s one of their quotes. And we’re going to do just that.

Seems some of you have noted just how much fun I’ve been having with the .44 Magnum lever-action rifle recently, and you asked for an episode about it. To that end, here it is. Our specific focus is going to be on what I’ve found to be the benefits, and the compromises that come with it. Depending on where you are, you may find a levergun in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .44-40, or .45 Colt to be useful for your situation or not.

I suggest that if you’re in the thick woods and taking shots at an absolute maximum distance of 150 yards, a levergun chambered for a revolver cartridge becomes a very useful tool. They also have good home-defense characteristics. It turns out that the Magnum handgun cartridges take on entirely new levels of power when shot out of a rifle-length barrel, either nipping at the heels of the classic .30-30 or even equaling it.

Saddle up, pardners, for a journey into the past, but with today’s modern twist! (pun intended)
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