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sikacz wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:52 pmI’ll agree on Lyndon Johnson. Which is pretty much my point, he was president when I came to the USA as a kid. As an eight year old, I didn’t have an opinion on his politics. I learned about them a few years later. Carter was president in my teens before I could vote. That’s reaching near 50 years back for a president that might have represented the people more. We have for the most part abdicated to vote for elites, not necessarily because we want them. It’s because those are the only choices the political establishment gives us. The elites control.TrueTexan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:05 pmWell those I can think of in my lifetime that tried to represent the people. Starting with Truman, Mr Citizen, Left the White house and went to live a quite life in Independence Mo., Eisenhower born in Texas grew up in Kansas was career military and saw like Kennedy the common person during WWI and WWII, Kennedy was from the elite but tried to help and represent the people, he saw what the "common" people were like during WWII. Lyndon Johnson grew up in poverty went to a state college to be a teacher, saw the common person up close and personal, and did what he could to pass some of the most social changing legislation passed by the congress. Even Nixon did some things for the people to correct the inequities of the work place and help the people and environment. Carter didn't do much as president but help more afterwards. The last but not least would be Obama trying to help rather than hinder the American people.sikacz wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:59 am
Nailed the perspective. I don’t recall the last nationally elected politician that actually represented the people and didn’t come from a position of privilege. By the time they reach national positions, they’ve all been in a privileged class for a good long time. Lip service is given to the masses, but it’s meaningless in the end.
Notice there was just two Repugs in my list and Nixon is kinda iffy. Tells something about the Grumpy Old People party.
Well that's not correct. He may not have liked it but he supported the SCOTUS ruling. best example was when he ordered federal troops to insure the integration of Little Rock Schools.Eisenhower never supported the the Brown vs Board of Education ruling by SCOTUS.
Under escort from the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division, nine Black students enter all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas. Three weeks earlier, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus had surrounded the school with National Guard troops to prevent its federal court-ordered racial integration.
Interesting enough it took till 1972 for the Little Rock Schools to be fully integrated. I was living in Jacksonville Arkansas just north of Little Rock in the mid 1960s. and our schools were fully integrated. But that was due to the fact the largest percentage of students were like me, dependents of US Air Force personnel. The military had a large roll in forcing local schools to integrate after theSCOTUS ruling. They just said all children of the military personnel will go to the same schools no matter what race they are or you will not receive any federal funding. Money talks.
TrueTexan wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:20 pmWell that's not correct. He may not have liked it but he supported the SCOTUS ruling. best example was when he ordered federal troops to insure the integration of Little Rock Schools.Eisenhower never supported the the Brown vs Board of Education ruling by SCOTUS.
Under escort from the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division, nine Black students enter all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas. Three weeks earlier, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus had surrounded the school with National Guard troops to prevent its federal court-ordered racial integration.Interesting enough it took till 1972 for the Little Rock Schools to be fully integrated. I was living in Jacksonville Arkansas just north of Little Rock in the mid 1960s. and our schools were fully integrated. But that was due to the fact the largest percentage of students were like me, dependents of US Air Force personnel. The military had a large roll in forcing local schools to integrate after the SCOTUS ruling. They just said all children of the military personnel will go to the same schools no matter what race they are or you will not receive any federal funding. Money talks.
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