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New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:08 pm
by TrueTexan
More than half of all human infectious diseases in recorded history — Lyme, West Nile, hantavirus, typhoid, HIV and influenza, to name a few — have been exacerbated by the mounting impacts of greenhouse gas-driven climate change.

That is the sobering conclusion of a new, first-of-its-kind paper that combed through more than 70,000 scientific studies to pinpoint how an array of climate hazards have impacted 375 pathogenic diseases known to have impacted humans. A team of 11 researchers at the University of Hawaii at Manoa conducted the analysis, which was published Monday in the peer-reviewed scientific journal Nature Climate Change.
Full article here: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/climate ... bb991d9a9e

Of course we will still have the skeptics that refuse to believe there is climate change and that vaccines are evil.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:58 pm
by sikacz
Well what a surprise!!!! Not.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:50 pm
by BearPaws
It was a nice planet while it lasted...

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:10 pm
by sikacz
BearPaws wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:50 pm It was a nice planet while it lasted...
No worries, it’ll probably recover after we’re gone. Many patients recover after an infectious disease is eradicated.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:32 pm
by Fivex475
Though 23 years old , Catastrophe by David Keys is a great read. Weather, Bubonic plague, and many other things.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:33 pm
by featureless
This is another one of those things that scientists warned about.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:02 pm
by TrueTexan
featureless wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:33 pm This is another one of those things that scientists warned about.
But they don’t know what I heard from my cousin that heard it on OAN. That the liberals were the cause of COVID and the weather change is due to too many of them other people moving to the USofA. :sarcasm:

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:06 pm
by highdesert
There are a lot of diseases out there and they are complex. It's a meta analysis, they didn't do original research they just evaluated different studies. As with any paper/study, I'd like to see it replicated that's science.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:38 pm
by wings
It's a meta-analysis, which means anyone who tries to replicate it from the same data set using the same methods is going to get exactly the same result.

The differences between these sorts of studies is either changing what data is included, or changing the statistical analysis. That said, the Nature journals have an extremely strong reputation and a tradition of strenuous peer review. This isn't a novel finding.

The bad news is, we're all gonna die. The good news is, we were gonna anyways. It ain't doomsday. This year, nuclear winter is much higher up my bingo card for things that are gonna kill us, displacing civil unrest, Covid-19, and morons who never learned the basics of gun safety but cleared the ammo off the shelves anyway.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:23 am
by highdesert
wings wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:38 pm It's a meta-analysis, which means anyone who tries to replicate it from the same data set using the same methods is going to get exactly the same result.

The differences between these sorts of studies is either changing what data is included, or changing the statistical analysis. That said, the Nature journals have an extremely strong reputation and a tradition of strenuous peer review. This isn't a novel finding.

The bad news is, we're all gonna die. The good news is, we were gonna anyways. It ain't doomsday. This year, nuclear winter is much higher up my bingo card for things that are gonna kill us, displacing civil unrest, Covid-19, and morons who never learned the basics of gun safety but cleared the ammo off the shelves anyway.
If a new group of scientists reviewing the meta analysis doesn't feel that some data merits being included or should be weighted differently or recommends other data, that all gets included in their report and could alter the previous analysis.

Peer reviewed journals are the best we have, but they're not infallible. I'm reminded of Andrew Wakefield who published a study in one of Britain's most respected medical journals, The Lancet. His conclusion later debunked was that there was a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. The Lancet later retracted the article. That article still feeds the antivaxxer community.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02989-9

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:24 am
by TrueTexan
I asked my science experts.Starting with myself I have a degrees in Science Nursing and 40+ years of working in healthcare. I also asked my wife PhD Molecular Biology and professor teaching Anatomy & Physiology and Microbiology for over 15 years at the college level before becoming Dean of the science Dept. I asked my sisters in law. One has a PHD in Biochemistry and does cancer research at M.D. Anderson Houston Tx is being inducted as a fellow into the Academy of Arts and Sciences this fall. The other sister in law along with her husband has a PHD in Environmental Sciences. They all agree this is basic science. I was taught many years ago in Microbiology class that bacteria and viruses are opportunistic and multiply in warmer environments with an ideal temperature rage very close to that of the human body of 98.6F. We can set a range between 80F and 110F. Given that temp and a host they will multiply quickly. That is why we keep our spoilable foods in a freezer or refrigerator. As the planet warms we have more areas that are in those ranges for a longer period of time and we will have more growth in the microbiology world. Not just in the pathogenic microbes but in all microbes that multiply in that range of temperatures.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:37 am
by highdesert
TrueTexan wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:24 am I asked my science experts.Starting with myself I have a degrees in Science Nursing and 40+ years of working in healthcare. I also asked my wife PhD Molecular Biology and professor teaching Anatomy & Physiology and Microbiology for over 15 years at the college level before becoming Dean of the science Dept. I asked my sisters in law. One has a PHD in Biochemistry and does cancer research at M.D. Anderson Houston Tx is being inducted as a fellow into the Academy of Arts and Sciences this fall. The other sister in law along with her husband has a PHD in Environmental Sciences. They all agree this is basic science. I was taught many years ago in Microbiology class that bacteria and viruses are opportunistic and multiply in warmer environments with an ideal temperature rage very close to that of the human body of 98.6F. We can set a range between 80F and 110F. Given that temp and a host they will multiply quickly. That is why we keep our spoilable foods in a freezer or refrigerator. As the planet warms we have more areas that are in those ranges for a longer period of time and we will have more growth in the microbiology world. Not just in the pathogenic microbes but in all microbes that multiply in that range of temperatures.
I agree temperature is a factor, but we also have refrigeration [along with freezing] and air conditioning which didn't exist in former times. There are a lot of factors and they all need to be weighted in evaluating the impacts of climate change. Research on the environment needs the same close examination as research on gun control laws.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:55 am
by featureless
Another aspect to climate change disease spread is vectors. As places change, new vectors move in and thrive. In my neck of the woods, ticks and mosquitoes don't experience nearly the winter due off from freezing they used to since winters are warming and real freezes are less common.

Re: New Study Finds, Climate Change Is Supercharging Most Infectious Diseases,

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:21 am
by TrueTexan
Speaking of vectors. Here's one that is world wide.
Human Pathogens Are Hitching a Ride on Floating Plastic

The plastics had only been submerged in the ocean off Falmouth, England, for a week, but in that time a thin layer of biofilm, a slimy mix of mucus and microbes, had already developed on their surfaces. Michiel Vos, a microbiologist at the University of Exeter in England, had sunk five different types of plastic as a test. He and his colleagues wanted to know which of the myriad microbes living in the ocean would glom on to these introduced materials
Full article here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... g-plastic/
Mr. McGuire: Plastics.

Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean?

Mr. McGuire: There’s a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?
-Movie The Graduate 1967