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Coming NY anti gun legislation

#1 Post by koolaidblue » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:36 pm

For any members here in NY or concerned about gun control developments...


Gov. Cuomo was just re-elected and now has both houses of state government controlled by democrats. They are still releasing the names of the victims from the latest tragedy in thousand oaks California and he is already talking about enacting new anti gun laws.

http://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/hudson ... gislature-


For those who are not aware it was a similar circumstance when Cuomo rammed through the "NY SAFE act" after the Newtown shooting. The safe act is one of the most restrictive and convoluted pieces of anti gun legislation ever written in this country.

NY is about to get safe act 2.0

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#2 Post by GTN » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:02 pm

Coumo wants to be the best with the toughest laws that at the expense of the law abiding citizens. He has to one up the rest of the restrictive states.
Talk is
registration of all long guns
All semi auto firearms registration as assault weapons.
Limiting ammo purchases with in state purchase only.
Registration of all ammo
And I’m sure he has more up his sleeve

It’s going to be a nightmare here soon

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#3 Post by AndyH » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:03 am

I've asked the mods to move this to "well regulated" - that's where we keep such things.

It sounds like your laws are already pretty crazy (not California or NJ crazy, but getting there). Are any locals fighting back?
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#4 Post by koolaidblue » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:36 am

AndyH wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:03 am
I've asked the mods to move this to "well regulated" - that's where we keep such things.

It sounds like your laws are already pretty crazy (not California or NJ crazy, but getting there). Are any locals fighting back?
Thanks for moving to proper forum my mostske,

IMO They definitely are every bit as bad as nj or ca except ours doesn't get as much national attention and it's written very poorly so no one really even knows exactly what it means.

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#5 Post by koolaidblue » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:52 am

GTN wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:02 pm
Coumo wants to be the best with the toughest laws that at the expense of the law abiding citizens. He has to one up the rest of the restrictive states.
Talk is
registration of all long guns
All semi auto firearms registration as assault weapons.
Limiting ammo purchases with in state purchase only.
Registration of all ammo
And I’m sure he has more up his sleeve

It’s going to be a nightmare here soon

Yes I agree.

Just my opinion but I think he wants to try and position himself for the 2020 presidential race as a candidate who is the toughest on guns and he's going to do it at our expense.

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#6 Post by shinzen » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 am

The ongoing saga of politicians throwing things against the wall to see what will stick. Sure would be refreshing to see one of them, just one, say hmm. Maybe we should figure out the why instead of focusing on the what....... Honestly I'm surprised that NY hasn't copied CA's absurd microstamping requirement for new handguns.
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#7 Post by YankeeTarheel » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:28 am

Are there any major gun manufacturers in California? Bushmasters are made in New York.
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#8 Post by shinzen » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:48 am

RCBS is a CA company, and Weatherby was made in CA, but moved to Wyoming a couple of years ago. Some smaller players.
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#9 Post by TrueTexan » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:17 pm

Is there a hidden contest between Dems in Ca, NJ, NY and Mass. to see who can come up with the most illogical crappyist restrictive gun laws every time we have a shooting around election time?
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#10 Post by eelj » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:56 pm

TrueTexan wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:17 pm
Is there a hidden contest between Dems in Ca, NJ, NY and Mass. to see who can come up with the most illogical crappyist restrictive gun laws every time we have a shooting around election time?
Because we have the metro area in Mn we have our share of idiot urban rats also.

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#11 Post by DispositionMatrix » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:06 pm

koolaidblue wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:52 am
GTN wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:02 pm
Coumo wants to be the best with the toughest laws that at the expense of the law abiding citizens. He has to one up the rest of the restrictive states.
Talk is
registration of all long guns
All semi auto firearms registration as assault weapons.
Limiting ammo purchases with in state purchase only.
Registration of all ammo
And I’m sure he has more up his sleeve

It’s going to be a nightmare here soon

Yes I agree.

Just my opinion but I think he wants to try and position himself for the 2020 presidential race as a candidate who is the toughest on guns and he's going to do it at our expense.
He'd have to out-restrict Newsom:
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#12 Post by YankeeTarheel » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:49 pm

TrueTexan wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:17 pm
Is there a hidden contest between Dems in Ca, NJ, NY and Mass. to see who can come up with the most illogical crappyist restrictive gun laws every time we have a shooting around election time?
No, not at all. It's right out there, in the open.
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#13 Post by AndyH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:00 am

Where are the pro-gun NYorkers organizing and suing? At least Californians are fighting back.

The only thing I can find is the NRA V NY for their crappy insurance program, and a libertarian group's loss trying to fight for carry rights.
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#14 Post by CDFingers » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:27 am

How can you freakin' register ammo?

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#15 Post by dougb » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:37 am

WI used to require a log book for all pistol ammo. Just name, ID, caliber. Had a pair of FBI clones check the book once because someone used a .357 in a robbery in the county. Don't know what came of it. If the govt starts requiring guns to print ID numbers on ammo, I can see 8 shot revolvers getting more popular.
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#16 Post by AndyH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:06 am

dougb wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:37 am
If the govt starts requiring guns to print ID numbers on ammo, I can see 8 shot revolvers getting more popular.
How would revolvers 'fix' registered ammo? (I'm assuming there's something wrong with semi-autos?)
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#17 Post by dougb » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:41 pm

The idea is the semi auto gun ejects after each shot, spreading evidence each time you shoot. Revolvers don't eject with each shot. Any id on the slug will have to avoid deforming and heat.

Doesn't deal with reloading, stolen ammo, empties picked up at the target range. Someday, law makers will realize that only law abiding people obey laws and scoff laws will always find a way around.
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#18 Post by Eris » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:24 pm

dougb wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:41 pm
Someday, law makers will realize that only law abiding people obey laws and scoff laws will always find a way around.
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#19 Post by HuckleberryFun » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:08 pm

dougb wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:37 am
WI used to require a log book for all pistol ammo. Just name, ID, caliber. Had a pair of FBI clones check the book once because someone used a .357 in a robbery in the county. Don't know what came of it. If the govt starts requiring guns to print ID numbers on ammo, I can see 8 shot revolvers getting more popular.
And blackpowder and lead bullet molds.
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