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New factory pistol, shoot first or clean first?

#1 Post by methodmissing » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:27 pm

Hi folks, I’m making my first firearms purchase on Sunday!

I’ve had close friends advise me to clean a new firearm first before firing it, and other friends say it’s just fine to shoot a few rounds right after purchasing.

Please break this tie, LGC, should I shoot or clean?

I’ll clean it afterward regardless.

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#2 Post by Marlene » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:30 pm

Guns are shipped with oils and greases designed to prevent corrosion, not primarily designed as lubricants.

That said, I wipe the chamber and bore of a new gun dry, mop up any excessive oil it was packed in (they're often very greasy) and go shoot. Maybe my answer splits the difference.
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#3 Post by Stiff » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:45 pm

If you buy a new pistol out of a store today, it's generally ok to just take it out of the box and shoot it. If this is a military surplus packed in cosmoline, you better clean it first.

When in doubt, clean it first. The worst that can happen is you waste 15 minutes doing it.

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#4 Post by senorgrand » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:53 pm

If it's a sig, clean it. They use like cosmoline or something...
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#5 Post by methodmissing » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:17 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I should specify it’s my M&P 2.0 in 9mm I’m anticipating. Good point about excessive grease. I did note some oil and buildup around the scalloping on the slide, but no slimy blobs.

Picking up Sunday.

Can’t hurt to clean and dry fire a bit before going live.

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#6 Post by K9s » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:27 am

Clean it and oil it. Why take a chance on a new pistol?
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#7 Post by SeaDragonTattoo » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:59 am

All three gun shops I've purchased from have a range, and give me an hour free when I pick up. So I've shot first and cleaned later so far.
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#8 Post by YankeeTarheel » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:32 am

I didn't clean my Sig P320 when I got it as the LGS is a range as well. The only problem I had was getting the Romeo1 red dot dialed in--an RSO helped me with that.
I didn't smell cosmoline and that stuff really stinks, too.

But, if you're have any gunsmith work done because you're LGS is your FFL for an out-of-state purchase, you'll want to check it VERY carefully before you shoot it. My Kel-Tec Sub2000 comes with a threaded barrel, a no-no in NJ, so it has to be pinned. The gunsmith was SO careless he had the pin running too deep and it obstructed the barrel chamber! Fixed it myself...
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Re: New factory pistol, shoot first or clean first?

#9 Post by Bang » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:44 am

If it looks clean inside I shoot them. If it looks dirty or greasy inside I clean them.

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#10 Post by Bucolic » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:02 am

Yup. Clean it. Bond with it before you shoot it. Then clean it after you shoot it.


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#11 Post by VodoundaVinci » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:05 am

I clean every new gun and relube it with premium lube before I shoot them. The "stuff" that most new guns are coated with are preservatives (as already mentioned) and generally are not all the good at lubricating surfaces.

Will the gun be ruined if you pull it out of the box and shoot 50 rounds? Nahhhhh. That'd be hard to believe. I just have had great luck with all my guns running good CLP in 40+ years. No rust, no wear, no issues.

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#12 Post by highdesert » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:17 am

Definitely clean and oil before shooting. Shooting a new pistol full of cosmoline is like standing behind a car that is burning oil. Cosmoline is a petroleum based rust inhibitor.
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#13 Post by methodmissing » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:12 pm

Thanks for all the great feedback. You’ve helped me a lot. I’ll be spending a bit of quality time with the weapon before putting it to work on the range :)

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#14 Post by zzrguy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:32 pm

All guns I buy are full detailed before I shoot them. It gives me a picture of how everything work in the gun and I then know the gun is improperly lubricated.

I have found wood shavings, metal filings, dirt, Styrofoam bits, and dead ants in new firearm. I found a 20 in the butt stock of a old lever guns I bought with a 1949 date on the bill. That was pretty cool
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#15 Post by Eris » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:38 pm

zzrguy wrote:I found a 20 in the butt stock of a old lever guns I bought with a 1949 date on the bill. That was pretty cool
That's pretty neat! But I have to wonder: who hides money in a gun? :huh:
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#16 Post by SubRosa » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:04 pm

I found a pistol, holster, & extra ammo hidden in a just delivered broadcast transmitter.

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#17 Post by Bang » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:14 pm

SubRosa wrote:I found a pistol, holster, & extra ammo hidden in a just delivered broadcast transmitter.

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#18 Post by Pomme » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:15 pm

Eris wrote:
zzrguy wrote:I found a 20 in the butt stock of a old lever guns I bought with a 1949 date on the bill. That was pretty cool
That's pretty neat! But I have to wonder: who hides money in a gun? :huh:
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#19 Post by sikacz » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:53 am

Inspect, clean lightly, dry and shoot.
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#20 Post by VodoundaVinci » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:49 pm

Eris wrote:
zzrguy wrote:I found a 20 in the butt stock of a old lever guns I bought with a 1949 date on the bill. That was pretty cool
That's pretty neat! But I have to wonder: who hides money in a gun? :huh:
I'm pretty sure in 1949 that $20 and a lever gun was a pretty potent bug out talisman. Between the buying power of $20 and the intimidation power of a decent lever gun a guy could get on for weeks with that combo.

My Wife's family were all farmers and law men in small towns in America. A pistol/rifle and $20 was a big deal when some of those guys considered that a months wages in real cash money. And a gun means you can always get more....$20 buys a lot of ammunition in '49.

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#21 Post by SpaceRanger42 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:10 pm

It wasn't uncommon to hide money in a gun. Old west gunfighters (post 1873) are said to have kept a bank note in the 6th cylinder of their guns (firing pin on the hammer they didn't carry with six shots loaded) the money was to pay the undertaker or in case of emergency. A lever gun with a bill from 1949, the previous owner may have been old enough to have caught the end of the "wild" west.
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#22 Post by Buck13 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:23 pm

My guess would be that the lever gun owner was a hunter who had to travel a good distance to hunt. What if you dropped your wallet while walking in the woods, had it stolen from your vehicle, lifted from your pocket in a bar, etc? No ATM or credit cards back then. Twenty bucks in the Fifties would have bought a lot of gas and meals on the way home, plus a night in a motel.
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#23 Post by Bisbee » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:39 pm

Yeah... good point.
My google-fu says $20 in 1950's equates to $208 today! Damn! Grandpa dropped a small fortune in that gun when he forgot.

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#24 Post by Woodsman » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:06 pm

SubRosa wrote:I found a pistol, holster, & extra ammo hidden in a just delivered broadcast transmitter.

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#25 Post by Stiff » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:13 pm

I don't mind thread drift, as long as the original topic has been exhausted.

Speaking of cash, until recently I dislike carrying money, because card is so much more convenient. By paying with plastic I avoid jingling small change, and I get 2% cashback for every transaction. I began carrying cash again as an emergency measure, in case of electricity failure.

The amount of emergency cash? $200. It's large enough to cover most emergencies on the road, but not large enough to cause heart attack if lost or stolen.

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