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#1 Post by senorgrand » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:06 pm

OK, I'm losing Paracut.com's global headquarters at the end of the month and need to build a dedicated office in the garage. The small hiccup is that I'm currently renting, so my first choice is to NOT put-up 2x4 sheetrock walls. In addition to keeping my landlord from freaking, I'd like to transfer whatever I build to another garage if I end-up moving.

I'm going to set aside one corner of the garage, so 2 walls will already be standing. I'll have a window, power outlet and a vent (needed for portable a/c) already provided for me. My plan was for my barriers to go all the way to the ceiling (9') so that I don't have to drop a suspended ceiling. I'll be using slab as my floor. Sheetrock is already on the two walls and ceiling.

The purpose of these constructed barriers is three-fold: 1) provide a dedicated office space; 2) provide a method of containing cool air produced by a portable A/C (garage reaches high 90's in summer); 3) produce some way of reducing outside noise.

I found this on the interwebs: https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/diy-ho ... ial-139922

I was thinking of modifying this using an actual overhead closet track to suspend the sliding panels (I might have one laying around). I would use this 6' section for my entrance. The remaining perimeter would be suspended via another method (I'm thinking of L-shaped joist hangers attached to the ceiling).

I'm also thinking of modifying the construction of the dividers to better meet my needs. Maybe making a laminate from plywood and rigid insulation, with the insulation on outside of the walls.

I'm guessing my footprint would be 10'x6'.

Any help brainstorming would be appreciated.
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#2 Post by Marlene » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:48 pm

Just use 2” rigid foam. 2x2 on either side of it at the ceiling and at the floor. The floor 2x2 can be attached with VHB double sided tape. If you can only get it in 8’ length, glue pieces together with ordinary caulk as an adhesive. I like your door idea.
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#3 Post by SouthpawB » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:49 pm

You could use modular shelving units from Ikea with plywood screwed to the back to form your “room” and hang a door or heavy curtain in the remaining opening. That way you get privacy and storage and modularity. Your room dimensions would be set by the number of shelving units wide by the number deep. Demountability? I think I invented that word. Lemme know if any of that makes sense.


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#5 Post by senorgrand » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:02 pm

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Just use 2” rigid foam. 2x2 on either side of it at the ceiling and at the floor. The floor 2x2 can be attached with VHB double sided tape. If you can only get it in 8’ length, glue pieces together with ordinary caulk as an adhesive. I like your door idea.
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#6 Post by senorgrand » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:29 pm

Another question: instead of cutting a hole in the exterior wall, could I mount a cheap window A/C unit in my office and have it "vent" into the 2-car garage?
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#7 Post by shinzen » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:54 pm

Portable AC units come with a window kit and a decently long vent hose, so moving it to your doorway if need be could work. I use one in may garage which doubles as a workout and reloading room.

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#8 Post by senorgrand » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:12 pm

Thanks shinzen!

I was hoping I could shave a couple hundred off my costs by going with a window unit.

Unfortunately, the only window I would have available to me in the garage doesn't open. :(
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#9 Post by shinzen » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:00 pm

Ah bummer

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#10 Post by sikacz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:17 pm

Did you by chance look into swamp coolers?
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#11 Post by senorgrand » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:22 pm

thanks...too big for my needs. Probably will go portable ac. I'm cleaning out the garage to make this happen. Soooooo much crap....
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#12 Post by sikacz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:25 pm

senorgrand wrote:
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thanks...too big for my needs. Probably will go portable ac. I'm cleaning out the garage to make this happen. Soooooo much crap....
Swamp coolers come in single room residential portable models. No need to duct exhaust.

There are a bunch of these from different manufacturers.
http://www.toptenreviews.com/home/hvac/ ... e-coolers/
Being on the west coast these might be a cost effective solution for a small room with no venting. This doesn't work in Houston for example. Different climate.
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#13 Post by Bisbee » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:42 pm

Swamp coolers are generally great for the desert but truly suck when it's humid like during our monsoon season. Window a/c units will always be smaller and more efficient in cooling the air under any circumstance. You just got to get that stuck window open! I wouldn't recommend venting into a hot garage... not efficient heat exchange. Unless you plan on keeping the garage door open. That'd work.
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#14 Post by sikacz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:50 pm

Here's a regional map. Most of California is ideal.
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#15 Post by shinzen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:02 pm

Evap coolers are fantastic in the right situation- Had one in both Denver and in Sacramento. That said, I tried out one of the smaller portable units and wasn't impressed- the big portable commercial ones work great, but didn't have good luck with the smaller ones. Being able to crack a window is crucial or you'll wind up with a swamp instead of a cooler room. The ones that go into your window are superb, but from the above comments, I don't think that would work in your situation.
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#16 Post by CDFingers » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:22 pm

Make a wall out of Hillary's emails because no one can get over them. >baddaboomp<

Seriously, a window a/c is best. Second best is one of those portables on wheels that has to exhaust out the window--or where ever you can make it so in your garage.

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#17 Post by sikacz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:43 pm

What is the humidity levels during the cooling season in your area of California. Below 30 percent or above 30 percent?
It's going to be pretty pointless to install a portable AC unless you can find a vent for it. Keeping a garage door continuously open may not be a good idea. Now if your garage had a washer dryer setup, you could install a "y" connection to the dryer vent. If the dryer vent has a flap that would need to be replaced with a mesh. The vent duct would still have to be within the limits of the AC's capability.
Since my design expertise is not in your climate zone I'd consult with a local MEP engineer. On paper California seems suited to solutions that are not really possible in my area of Texas. Good luck my friend. I hesitated answering since the climates I know best are near arctic or like Texas.
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#18 Post by shinzen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:11 pm

55% humidity where I'm at right now in Napa. We have an AC unit here rather than an evap unit.
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#19 Post by featureless » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:28 pm

Swamp coolers are great for those who don't like to iron or have static hair problems. Just get a little window AC unit and a fan. Or, if you're industrious, insulate the garage with some 2 inch foam and tape/foam the seams. The concrete floor should provide plenty of coolness for the day, provided you vent it in the evening. Your next problem will be heat in the winter. Insulation is a good use of petroleum!

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#20 Post by senorgrand » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:48 pm

no swamp for me. I will portable a/c. I might even be able to vent outside.
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#21 Post by sikacz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:27 pm

senorgrand wrote:
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no swamp for me. I will portable a/c. I might even be able to vent outside.
The venting is a must with AC. If you can't vent don't even bother. The heat has to go outside in some way. It's nature of the system.
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#22 Post by senorgrand » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:03 pm

portable a/c installed! Vented it outside too. I'll take pics once the office is done.
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