New member here.
I bought a lower when some coworkers did a group buy back in 2013. I never completed it because I figured I’d never use it.
Now considering building an upper for it.
Anyone familiar with this lower? Is it worth completing? Junk?
Thanks.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
2It looks complete. It also looks polymer. Buy an upper, shoot it till it breaks and then swap parts to an aluminum lower. I wouldn't take it into battle.
You should introduce yourself in the new members forum, BTW.
You should introduce yourself in the new members forum, BTW.
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Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
3All this.Mason wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:16 pm It looks complete. It also looks polymer. Buy an upper, shoot it till it breaks and then swap parts to an aluminum lower. I wouldn't take it into battle.
You should introduce yourself in the new members forum, BTW.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
4I mean if you already have the lower you might as well complete it. no use having a part of a gun.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
5Thanks.
Ordered an upper and upper parts kit, a barrel and a Handguard set.
I’m kinda clueless about what to do for sights.
It’s a 5.56 16-inch mid-length cmv barrel, and a standard mil upper. Is there a basic sight setup that anyone can recommend?
I don’t want to spend a fortune on this thing.
Ordered an upper and upper parts kit, a barrel and a Handguard set.
I’m kinda clueless about what to do for sights.
It’s a 5.56 16-inch mid-length cmv barrel, and a standard mil upper. Is there a basic sight setup that anyone can recommend?
I don’t want to spend a fortune on this thing.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
7Nothing wrong with MBUS...you can get gen 2's pretty cheap. Hell, I'll ship you a set for $45
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
8what else? buy dummy rounds and a cleaning kit. if you are building an upper, you'll need an ar wrench and vice block (and vice).
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
9So if I bought I bare barrel, it looks like I need a gas block, gas tube and bolt carrier group. Is that correct?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
10Yup. I'll let more experienced folks chime in, as I've only done handguards on ARs.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
11Unless you are really into building it yourself, there are like, a kajillion vendors who would love to sell you a completed
receiver for less than you can buy all the parts. Two minutes later you can be shootin'!
I say that as a person who usually spends twice as much to build it myself than just buying the darn thing up front
John
receiver for less than you can buy all the parts. Two minutes later you can be shootin'!
I say that as a person who usually spends twice as much to build it myself than just buying the darn thing up front
John
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
12For an upper you would need:
Upper + parts kit if you need it
Barrel
Bolt
Bolt Carrier
Charging handle
Gas block that matches your barrel size
gas tube that matches the barrel gas system
handguard
muzzle device or thread protector if you get a threaded barrel
if your handguard/upper didn't come with a barrel nut you need one of those
For tools you would need a vise and a vise block and an armorers wrench, some anti seize and if you want to be a perfectionist a torque wrench.
Upper + parts kit if you need it
Barrel
Bolt
Bolt Carrier
Charging handle
Gas block that matches your barrel size
gas tube that matches the barrel gas system
handguard
muzzle device or thread protector if you get a threaded barrel
if your handguard/upper didn't come with a barrel nut you need one of those
For tools you would need a vise and a vise block and an armorers wrench, some anti seize and if you want to be a perfectionist a torque wrench.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
13You'll also need a set of AR sized roll pin starters, a good set of AR sized steel punches (cheap brass ones bend), a punch hammer, and a good idea of what you're doing.
Seriously, just buy a completed upper of your choice and be done with it. If you're only going to do one it isn't worth it.
There's also a serious danger, if you're mechanically inclined, of becoming addicted to the process. I know, I bought the first in December 2012, modified it, and then built..well, more than one. I think I'm over it now.
I'm resisting the urge to further modify my 10-22...so far. Well, maybe a BX trigger. Maybe a Brimstone BX. But that's it, I swear... Oooh, a shiny! No, don't look, don't look!
I went through the same thing with PC's starting in 1985 and continuing to the present.
AR's, 10-22's, and PC's all share this risk. Just ask Bucolic about 10-22's...
Seriously, just buy a completed upper of your choice and be done with it. If you're only going to do one it isn't worth it.
There's also a serious danger, if you're mechanically inclined, of becoming addicted to the process. I know, I bought the first in December 2012, modified it, and then built..well, more than one. I think I'm over it now.
I'm resisting the urge to further modify my 10-22...so far. Well, maybe a BX trigger. Maybe a Brimstone BX. But that's it, I swear... Oooh, a shiny! No, don't look, don't look!
I went through the same thing with PC's starting in 1985 and continuing to the present.
AR's, 10-22's, and PC's all share this risk. Just ask Bucolic about 10-22's...
"In every generation there are those who want to rule well - but they mean to rule. They promise to be good masters - but they mean to be masters." — Daniel Webster
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
14If you just want a .223/5.56 without spending a ton of money you can get AR Stoner uppers from Midway or Cheaper Than Dirt for under $300 and Midway has free shipping deals and uppers are delivered right to your house.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
15I'm going to go out on a limb and say any lower is worth completing.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
16no. send it to me, i'll dispose of it for you. no charge.
i'm retired. what's your excuse?
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
17These are ARs TOTALLY worth investing in!
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
18Sweet ARs! I’m more of a vintage Klipsch fan myself though. Love me a nice pair of La Scalas.
I canceled my order for the barrel and misc parts after I had to go back and place 2 more orders. It came close to $600 for an upper I could buy complete for a lot less haha.
So, “cheaper than dirt” is a legit seller? Any other recommendations?
Thanks.
I canceled my order for the barrel and misc parts after I had to go back and place 2 more orders. It came close to $600 for an upper I could buy complete for a lot less haha.
So, “cheaper than dirt” is a legit seller? Any other recommendations?
Thanks.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
19Also, have no idea what upper to get. So many options. I think I want a mid, not carbine. I’m in CA to, so it’s gotta be legal (featureless)
Any suggestions for a 500-600 complete upper?
Any suggestions for a 500-600 complete upper?
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
20Cheaper Than Dirt is located in Texas. And you might have better luck there finding a prebuilt mid length upper. Also try Brownells. They are located in Iowa.KiefRichards wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:29 pm Sweet ARs! I’m more of a vintage Klipsch fan myself though. Love me a nice pair of La Scalas.
I canceled my order for the barrel and misc parts after I had to go back and place 2 more orders. It came close to $600 for an upper I could buy complete for a lot less haha.
So, “cheaper than dirt” is a legit seller? Any other recommendations?
Thanks.
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/
https://www.brownells.com/
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
21So I ordered this and a 5.56 carrier group from aero.
Did I do ok? Haha.
I just want this to go the range with a few times a year and for home defense, which I sincerely hope never happens.
Did I do ok? Haha.
I just want this to go the range with a few times a year and for home defense, which I sincerely hope never happens.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
22You did very well, Aero makes really solid stuff. One of my favorite manufacturers by far.KiefRichards wrote:So I ordered this and a 5.56 carrier group from aero.
Did I do ok? Haha.
I just want this to go the range with a few times a year and for home defense, which I sincerely hope never happens.
I never shop at Cheaper Than Dirt, they're the worst price gougers in the game.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
23Yes to all of this.kronkmusic wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:53 pmYou did very well, Aero makes really solid stuff. One of my favorite manufacturers by far.KiefRichards wrote:So I ordered this and a 5.56 carrier group from aero.
Did I do ok? Haha.
I just want this to go the range with a few times a year and for home defense, which I sincerely hope never happens.
I never shop at Cheaper Than Dirt, they're the worst price gougers in the game.
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
24I have a pair of AR 2As I restored, as well as Advents, Advent/1s, ESSs and surprisingly, a pair of Pioneer 4-ways I found ON THE STREET and completely restored. I've re-foamed a lot of woofers, and replaced damaged tweeters. Also have a fondness for Boston Acoustics (from the 90's) and I'm fond of the Canadian company: Axiom. I have a pair of B&W bookshelfs at our Bahamas house with a nice, middle-of-the-road Pioneer receiver. I like Pioneer electronics as they are insanely durable. I have one receiver that's 27 years old and, other than lacking more modern features, you'd swear was built yesterday.KiefRichards wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:29 pm Sweet ARs! I’m more of a vintage Klipsch fan myself though. Love me a nice pair of La Scalas.
I canceled my order for the barrel and misc parts after I had to go back and place 2 more orders. It came close to $600 for an upper I could buy complete for a lot less haha.
So, “cheaper than dirt” is a legit seller? Any other recommendations?
Thanks.
Yeah, I know "THREAD HIJACK!!!!!!"
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."
Re: Is this AR lower worth completing?
25Do you realize if you put that upper on that lower in it's current configuration(s) you'll be committing felonies in CA?
There is a lot to learn and consider for CA. Get thee to Calguns.com with undue haste. They completely cover how to have a featureless AR in CA. There are a couple of ways to do it and they cover them all. Better with legal info, I dare say, than the CA DOJ.
Currently that 20 round mag you have? It's illegal to possess in CA. That's under litigation and you can't currently be charged for having it, but it is still on the books as being illegal to possess. As per Calguns, people aren't being hassled for them and even though they can be confiscated as a nuisance, there aren't reports of that being done either. Do you like boating?
Calguns is a conservative site, go for the info, avoid the politics.
You'll be fine, just some homework to do. Good luck Mr Phelps.
There is a lot to learn and consider for CA. Get thee to Calguns.com with undue haste. They completely cover how to have a featureless AR in CA. There are a couple of ways to do it and they cover them all. Better with legal info, I dare say, than the CA DOJ.
Currently that 20 round mag you have? It's illegal to possess in CA. That's under litigation and you can't currently be charged for having it, but it is still on the books as being illegal to possess. As per Calguns, people aren't being hassled for them and even though they can be confiscated as a nuisance, there aren't reports of that being done either. Do you like boating?
Calguns is a conservative site, go for the info, avoid the politics.
You'll be fine, just some homework to do. Good luck Mr Phelps.