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Another reason not to use steel pins for cleaning brass

#1 Post by shinzen » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:17 pm

So my normal brass cleaning process is to skip the steel pins in my big tumbler, as they are messy as hell, and just running it for an extra half hour to an hour gets things clean enough for me. But. Today I decided to toss a handful in to get them cleaned up in an hour instead- was immediately reminded, upon rinsing stuff out, why I skipped them- the pins had wedged a bunch of 9mm cases inside 44 Mag. So spent some time getting those all pulled apart and tossed things in the oven.

Which brings us to the reason for the thread. About 45 minutes after putting the brass in the over, I hear this BANG!!! I first thought, holy shit did I miss a live primer or something? Nope. Two cases that I missed, one 9, on 44, had wedged themselves tight enough together to let steam build up and they separated with a bang. The spousal critter, me, and our furball all jumped, and now I'm on notice for drying stuff in the oven........

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#2 Post by Marlene » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:47 pm

Lol!
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#3 Post by K9s » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am

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#4 Post by CDFingers » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:24 am

Walnut shells. From time to time a piece gets stuck in a primer hole, so you poke it out with a sheet rock screw from the work bench.

I use walnut shells because I live in the northern Sacramento Valley, where we grow lots of nuts. As it were. Folks in the Midwest would use corn. East coasters would have their pick, and Southerners would use grits.

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Re: Another reason not to use steel pins for cleaning brass

#5 Post by shinzen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:32 am

I've grown to prefer wet tumbling to dry polishing- works quicker and gets things a bit cleaner, but definitely don't use the steel pins.
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#6 Post by Marlene » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:57 pm

Or, ya know, don’t mix your brass.
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#7 Post by shinzen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:07 pm

Whatever. Then I'd have to do multiple small batches. Which goes against every lazy grain in my body.
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#8 Post by shinzen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:08 pm

Although I suppose, to be fair, especially for revolvers, I could just skip cleaning the cases. That would be a whole new level.
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Re: Another reason not to use steel pins for cleaning brass

#9 Post by Bisbee » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:56 pm

Yeah! What kind of slob mixes their brass when cleaning?!? I call that a lesson from the brass gods.

Personally, I find those little steel pins do the best job cleaning brass. And they never get stuck in the primer pockets.

Oh and yeah, what kind of slob tumbles brass without decapping them first?
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#10 Post by shinzen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:04 pm

Oh sure Bisbee. Pile on why don't you. :lol:
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#11 Post by Marlene » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:07 pm

To be fair, I only tumble with pins, but I only tumble black powder brass.
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Re: Another reason not to use steel pins for cleaning brass

#12 Post by shinzen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:26 pm

Pins definitely clean things up faster and better- but without pins is simpler and still gets you pretty clean brass. Primer pockets don't get as nice though for sure. I also generally deprime anything not going into the progressive press before cleaning.

O/T, I did find some pyrodex FFFG which looks to be suitable for loading up some Webley rounds.
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#13 Post by Marlene » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:52 am

Use magnum primers with that stuff I think.
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#14 Post by AndyH » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:01 pm

Stories like this remind me why I like soaking brass in hot water with Dawn and citric acid.

Hey Bisbee - Squirrel! :lol:
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#15 Post by Buck13 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:15 pm

Marlene wrote:
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Or, ya know, don’t mix your brass.
Yeah, I did that once. Never again. 44 Mag, 10 mm and .38 cases mixed together get frustratingly intimate.
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#16 Post by Bisbee » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:35 pm

Squirrel? -where?
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#17 Post by Wisdomseeker » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:29 pm

Well i'm just the newbie here, but i've been reloading since '68 & pins, dawn & lemishine in my old thumbler is among the best discoveries ever in reloading for me. Got tired of the dust from walnut or corn. Invested in a separator, a magnet, 5 gal paint strainer bag, & a dehydrator. Can hardly tell brass from nickle cases.
I always deprime w/a Lee universal decapper (order extra pins), & trim first so all are RTL when dry. & i NEVER mix calibers! They jam together in vibratories w/any medium.

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#18 Post by beaurrr » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:49 pm

I"m down with pins, lemishine and Dawn using my Lortone lapidary tumbler. I so love the bright, gleaming, grime-free brass. Don't mix incompatible calibers and life is good.
I'm not keen on dry methods, like walnut shells because of the possibility of lead dust flying about, willy nilly.
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Re: Another reason not to use steel pins for cleaning brass

#19 Post by SubRosa » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:15 pm

A commercial shop in Phoenix uses glacial acetic acid & water. Works fast, they say without harm.

I guess that is exotic vinegar, in a rubber-lined cement mixer, of all things.

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#20 Post by lurker » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:49 pm

walnut or corncob here.
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#21 Post by lurker » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:51 pm

Wisdomseeker wrote:
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Well i'm just the newbie here,
well then, hie thee to the new member intro section and tell us all about what you shoot, and your pets, and anything else that comes to mind.
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#22 Post by sikacz » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:17 am

This means another oven.....
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#23 Post by Wisdomseeker » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:21 pm

Well lurker, i need to flesh out my profile on my desktop, as the forum s/w isn't mobile friendly methinks. But i shoot guns, lots, for a very long time, often w/interesting people, preferably mp-5sd, w/others paying for the ammo. & pets, yup, dogs, catrapods, foster kittens, chickens, & a rhinocodile for security. & these days, much of what comes to mind is the mind boggling reality that we have a russian asset in the WH.

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#24 Post by lurker » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:43 pm

yeah, that russian asset thing. i can just imagine the first meeting - "Hi, donald nice to meet you! you need cash? how would you like to be in debt up to your ears to a former KGB major? maybe we can think of a way for you to work it off." makes perfect sense.

but the rhinocodile, that's just too hard to believe. :blink: i think you made that up.
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#25 Post by max129 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:06 pm

the mind boggling reality that we have a russian asset in the WH.
Wait ... Flynn is gone!

Oh, you mean Melania!

Or, maybe even the PresDiDent!

And why not a Rooskie asset in the WH? If it is good for the NRA, it is good for 'Merika.
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