Now that stuff is coming back to shelves, I need to convince myself that I do NOT need to work up loads from 180gr to 220gr for my .30-06. Just spent a couple hundred bucks on other gear and I don't need the opportunity burning a hole in my pocket.
But just hypothetically..... what differences in long range accuracy and impact kinetic energy am I looking at.....
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2Common weight is 150 gr, so work your load up with that one. No need to work up loads for those two. Especially the 220 gr. You just don't need to do that to yourself. Sometimes 180 is chosen for long range accuracy. It is fairly stout, though. Pretty sure 220 is the t. rex load.
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Re: Must resist... (.30-06 220gr loads)
3Buffalo at ~400 yards, but yeah. I usually take them with 180-190s, buuuuuut.....since ammoseek has made it easier to dig through nooks and crannies of the internet....CDFingers wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:37 am Sometimes 180 is chosen for long range accuracy. It is fairly stout, though. Pretty sure 220 is the t. rex load.
My particular rifle doesn't like anything below 165 for past 100 yards. 150s even at 100 starts to spread more than is worth it.
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4Posting here is like having an AA meeting at the bar.
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5I can't think of a job I couldn't do with a 180gr monolithic or bonded bullet out of a .30-06.
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6But....bigger....and new load to play with....FrontSight wrote: I can't think of a job I couldn't do with a 180gr monolithic or bonded bullet out of a .30-06.
Exactly....
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7This is someone who needs a 12 step program. But rehab is for quitters. I like your attitude!!!
Cup & core round nose 220's at moderate velocities are just legendary on medium to large game. A load that duplicates the original .30-40 Krag, or very early .303 Brit loadings (220gr @ 2,400 fps) wouldn't be too abusive to shoot. That load in .303 has killed a LOT of game in Africa and India.
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8"Hello, I'm Cole F. I'm a reloader."
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Re: Must resist... (.30-06 220gr loads)
9Looking at my Lyman charts, the 220 RN is expected to use just one grain less of powder for a starting load vs the recipe for the 180 BTSPs I'm using now with similar velocities.
So, that makes the question, would a RN with another 30-40gr have appreciably more knockdown power at ~400 yards?
So, that makes the question, would a RN with another 30-40gr have appreciably more knockdown power at ~400 yards?
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10RN's are less than brilliant beyond about 250 yards. You could always brute force them, but when you get over 250 yards, it's time for something pointy.
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12I haven't ever gone over 180 in the '06, but I have thought about it.
The Nosler Accubond 200 grain is a stout, high BC bullet.
Now you got me thinking about it. Wonder if there are any of those around.
The Nosler Accubond 200 grain is a stout, high BC bullet.
Now you got me thinking about it. Wonder if there are any of those around.
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13What are you going to do with these? For .30-06 bullet weight, let your recoil, yardage & wallet be your guide. The heavy caliber .30 bullets hold onto velocity much better than the lighter bullets, so long as they are similarly pointy. The 150 grain bullet goes subsonic in the .30-06 just beyond 500 yards, so shooting 150's in a 600 yard match is bad because groups get a lot larger during the Supersonic-Subsonic transition. The 150s will beat you up much less than 180s, and a lot less than 220s. If you are shooting 600 yards, you need a 168 or more. I shoot a lot of 200 yard .30-06 matches, and for them I have finally decided I am going to work up 125 and 135 grain loads, because that's all I need, and I'm getting too old for much recoil.
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14NuJudge, I think you meant to say that the 150gr goes subsonic around 900 yards, so you need a 168 for 1000 yards.
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15Buffalo at ~400 yards, Accuracy is fine on the 180s. A good hit or two will put them down. If a few more grains of lead and some more KE will put help them cross the bridge quicker, all the better.