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Re: Long Range Shooter

#51 Post by K9s » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:38 pm

6.5 Creedmoor meets Henry Lever Action? My savings account may be in danger now.

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Re: Long Range Shooter

#52 Post by NegativeApproach » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:14 pm

Another vote for 6.5 Creedmore. I can hit clays (needing to dial in a bit) at 800 yards. It takes me a full mag to get 3-4 of them. The good thing about .308 is the consistent drop, but the drop over 6.5 is significant. I like how flat 6.5 shoots, and I think I'm dialed down about half as much to find my dope with 6.5 as I would be with .308 at about 800 yards (I haven't done the calculations, just a rough guess). There's nothing wrong with .308. It's a great all around cartridge, but I think it's great from 200-600 yards. I think from 500-1000 yards, 6.5 creedmore shines really well. If you're going over 1200 yards and still want significant power, I think you'd need to upgrade to .338 lapua or maybe .416.

I don't see the point in comparing 6.5 creedmore to .308, because they have much different applications. Just like people don't generally do an apples to apples comparrison of 5.56 to .308.

I consider long range to be 600 yards and further, so at that range, you start to see the limitations of .308. That's why 6.5 creedmore (or any 6.5 really) is a great intermediary until you get into those larger calibers at even longer distances.

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Re: Long Range Shooter

#53 Post by Mikeinmich » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:19 pm

So all of this got me thinking about my Garand again (since it’s the only longer range “heavy” rifle I own). It’s a 30-06 and has very little recoil (at least to me) probably because it’s heavy. Long story short, I found this interesting article on the 30-06 comparing it to the .308, 6.5 cm etc.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/30-06-sprin ... e-hunting/

It looks like they are close enough that I think that Marlene is right (again) that it isn’t worth replacing one you have, particularly if it doesn’t have too much recoil and you’re already good at it - buy/make more ammunition and just shoot it.

I just bought a ported has plug for the Ganand (the one that you don’t have to adjust) to be able to use regular ammunition, and I have an (evil) a mega scout scope mount (with a 1x4x Burris) on it already. I know my limits are ultimately going to be the available optics (there are match barrels out there and I could just buy this abomination- https://ustacticalsupply.com/sageintern ... stock.aspx - if I want a bipod, better cheek weld with a scope etc) but I’m just not that good right now and I only have a 300 yard range here.

I salivate at the cool long range stuff or AR-10s but I have more than enough guns and I still don’t shoot enough now.

And there’s the ping.

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Re: Long Range Shooter

#54 Post by K9s » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:37 pm

The 30-06 Garand is enough gun for anyone. I often wish I had one.
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Re: Long Range Shooter

#55 Post by eelj » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:39 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34RqMoyMZmI Ernie Jiminez has a channel devoted to long range shooting. He uses mostly milsurp rifles. This vid is with an M1 at 1000yds.

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Re: Long Range Shooter

#56 Post by SpaceRanger42 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:32 pm

I too waffle between choices for along range gun. I have dies for 30-06 and .308 already and will probably pick up 6.5 at some point. I know that I want a scout rifle in .308. I know I want something in 30-06. I am tempted by several Ruger and Savage products that are available for 6.5.
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