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Evidently, there is a big flap in the news over the "horror" of eating dog.
I don't agree with the cultural prejudice and taboo behind the banning of the practice in this country. Same goes for horses and other animals. The only thing I'd hope for is a quick and humane death, and that's something I'd wish for any animal (or person) facing death.

That dish does look pretty tasty...
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During the race for the south pole Amundson and his Norwegian team ate cached seal meat and finally many of their own dogs and they breezed across the snows like they where on a skiing holiday. Scott and the british team ate canned food and died of scurvy in their tent.

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Eskimos point out that in an emergency, a snowmobile tastes like motor oil.
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beaurrr wrote:Evidently, there is a big flap in the news over the "horror" of eating dog.
On our last pig hunt, a dog without a vest got slashed and we had to stop the hunt for a while to sew him up. The slash was deep, but clean. Down to the flesh. I assisted with the stitching, so I got a decent view of the inside of his haunch. I'll admit the thought went through my mind, "Hmm. Good lookin' roast."
And at the same time, missed by all present, was the unmistakable look of apprehension in the dog's eyes as it suddenly dawned on him his actual place in the food chain....
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mahkagari wrote:
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I have to admit, my first thought seeing this was "You're giving that to the dog? Dammit, people waste so much food for being 'lesser' cuts". When I realized what it meant, my next thought was, "Oooh, that broth looks savory and maybe spicy..."
I'd give it a go... it LOOKS appealing.

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I'd give it a go. That dish looks good.
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I don't have any ill wishes towards Vegans. They can eat what they want, doesn't bother me one bit. The Vegan folks that try to tell me that I'm wrong for running down a buck on foot and blasting it at about 15-yards with my 20 gauge before it charged me though.....those mofo's can just get over themselves. As far as I'm concerned I met the animal on it's terms, it had the chance to run away but instead IT wanted the fight, so I have no regrets other than I wish I hadn't damn near tore myself apart in running it down. Other than that. It was an honorable kill and I'm pretty sure that I made the native's in my family line proud.

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dpfeifer wrote:
mahkagari wrote:
13417509_895027353956411_9211448171203432862_n.jpg
I have to admit, my first thought seeing this was "You're giving that to the dog? Dammit, people waste so much food for being 'lesser' cuts". When I realized what it meant, my next thought was, "Oooh, that broth looks savory and maybe spicy..."
I'd give it a go... it LOOKS appealing.

While I have a number of vegan friends... I don't think I've even been pissed off in person more than by a vegan (and I respect that whole gig). As I was explaining some of the finer points of beekeeping to a small group of people a few years back, one lady started ripping into me telling me about my enslavement of bees and my systematic forced breeding (rape) of their queens. I tried to have a nice respectful discussion with her, but she was having none of that. After another 5 minutes of keeping my shit in one sock while she was an absolute ass to me, she forced the bay doors open and I let the F-Bombs drop. When I got into beekeeping, I never imagined it would be the source of that depth of heated controversy.
Around here, a lot of hives get packed up and shipped to California or Florida for the winter. The bees can chose to work or suntan.
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Raised an omnivore, switched to vegetarian then vegan several years ago, made my way back to meat a while after that. Since neither of us cooks worth a crap meat is something we eat when we go out.

As for the dish above, looks tasty but my dad said dog had a strong flavor so I doubt I'd care for it.

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Since I happily eat bunnies and baby cows and baby sheep, all of which are significantly cuter than some dogs, I can't say as how I'd object to dog on moral or general cuteness factor grounds. However, if it's strong an gamey, I won't like it - thus why I don't eat deer.

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Im happy to report my eldest daughter is back to eating meat, and my youngest just today decided to eat meat a couple days a month.
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I've been a vegetarian for 42 years now. In all that time I haven't knowingly had a bite of meat because I think it is wrong to kill animals for food or pleasure. I used to be part of an animal rights group, and did some protesting at stockyards and research labs.
At the same time, I was a volunteer escort at an abortion clinic. And had people protesting against me. Same goes for LGBT activism. I came to realize that, basically, I had to live and let live.
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Queen wrote:Raised an omnivore, switched to vegetarian then vegan several years ago, made my way back to meat a while after that. Since neither of us cooks worth a crap meat is something we eat when we go out.

As for the dish above, looks tasty but my dad said dog had a strong flavor so I doubt I'd care for it.
What happened to make you go back to eating meat? Did someone put a plate with a nice rare steak down in front of you :lol: .

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Hiker wrote:I've been a vegetarian for 42 years now. In all that time I haven't knowingly had a bite of meat because I think it is wrong to kill animals for food or pleasure. I used to be part of an animal rights group, and did some protesting at stockyards and research labs.
At the same time, I was a volunteer escort at an abortion clinic. And had people protesting against me. Same goes for LGBT activism. I came to realize that, basically, I had to live and let live.
If I don't want Bubba to give me shit about being a lesbian, then I should not give him a hard time about Bambi.
I have no problem with people living a vegetarian life style. We have friends who are and when we have had barbecues I have made sure that a part of the grill has been kept very clean and will grill whatever they like. The thing is they never reciprocate and fix me a burger when we go to their place. Plus the lecturing can get a little boring. For some reason from your post I don't think you would be like that.

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eelj wrote: I have no problem with people living a vegetarian life style. We have friends who are and when we have had barbecues I have made sure that a part of the grill has been kept very clean and will grill whatever they like. The thing is they never reciprocate and fix me a burger when we go to their place. Plus the lecturing can get a little boring. For some reason from your post I don't think you would be like that.
I try to be a good guest where ever I go. I NEVER insist or even ask for special food to be prepared for me. If everything has meat in it, I will happily sit and have a glass of water. But in 42 years that has only happened once.
As far as lecturing people goes, I am just not into that. I wouldn't want them to preach their religion to me, so I don't preach at them. If they ask I will give a couple of sentences in response. If they ask more I will tell them. I just really don't see the need for preaching, almost everyone has heard of the concepts involved in vegetarian/veganism. So why bother, when what I really want to know is if they have any cool guns.
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Save the dogs. Eat people. It's the right thing to do.
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I'm grossed out by heterosexuality and I manage to keep my mouth shut about it most of the time. Hell, some of my best friends are straight. I expect the same courtesy from others, whichever of my moral failings they notice.

I'd eat the dog.
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Marlene wrote:I'm grossed out by heterosexuality and I manage to keep my mouth shut about it most of the time. Hell, some of my best friends are straight. I expect the same courtesy from others, whichever of my moral failings they notice.

I'd eat the dog.
I don't mind breeders as long as they don't throw their disgusting alternative lifestyle in my face or demand any special rights. Keep it in the bedroom, I say. :sneaky:
(Dog eaters are beyond the pale, though. Sorry Marlene, you are sentenced to a term of hard Disney film watching labor for the rest of your natural life plus 99 years.)
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This thread seems appropriate for this article on The Reducetarian Foundation:
Among the key precepts of Buddhism is the concept of interdependence— pratitya-samutpada—the message that there is no “inside” as distinct from the “outside.” (What did the Buddha say to the hot dog vender? “Make me one with everything.”) It is the eighth century Indian scholar and philosopher Santideva who left us perhaps the earliest clear statement deriving ethical precepts from Buddhist teaching. “Just as the body, which has many parts owing to its division into arms and so forth, should be protected as a whole,” he wrote, “so should this entire world be protected, for it is differentiated and yet it has the nature of the same suffering and happiness.” David McMahan points out that similar statements can be found in East Asian texts, such as the writing of Korean monk Gihwa, from the early fifteenth century: “Humaneness implies the interpenetration of heaven and earth and the myriad things into a single body, wherein there is no gap whatsoever. If you deeply embody this principle, then there cannot be a justification for inflicting harm on even the most insignificant of creatures.”
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“A human being is an animal, a part of nature. But we single ourselves out from the rest of nature. We classify other animals and living beings as nature, acting as if we ourselves are not part of it. Then we pose the question, ‘How should we deal with Nature?’ We should deal with nature the way we should deal with ourselves! We should not harm ourselves; we should not harm nature. … Human beings and nature are inseparable. Therefore, by not caring properly for any one of these, we harm them all.”
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Even when my kids went vegetarian for a while I had them watch this. Just incase they were refusing meat because animals have feelings and are intelligent beings that can communicate .
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/what-pla ... sode/8243/

Plants do all that too, just not exactly like we do.

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JColville wrote:I'd give it a go. That dish looks good.
We have a long history of eating meat from horses, dogs, rabbits,cats, squirrels, even rat . whatever had protein to keep us alive. We even use to eat other humans.

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