San Jose enforces shutdown order against busy FFL

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San Jose enforces shutdown order against busy FFL

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Coronavirus: San Jose orders gun store to close in one of first enforcement against businesses open under shelter order
But after customers lined up around gun stores in several counties Tuesday — including outside the Bullseye Bishop in San Jose — San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo declared that “gun stores are non-essential.”

“We are having panic buying right now for food,” Liccardo said Wednesday. “The one thing we cannot have is panic buying of guns.”

Law enforcement officials confirmed Wednesday that they shut down the Bullseye Bishop with little fanfare, in one of the first enforcement actions taken in San Jose on the initial day of the shelter-in-place order.

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Whelp...the first reaction of authorities to crisis is expanding the scope of their authority.
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Every douchebag in the state is sure that their business is essential. Nobody needs a gun right now more than I need a bunch of morons to be not breathing on each other for a minute.
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Marlene wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:23 am
Every douchebag in the state is sure that their business is essential. Nobody needs a gun right now more than I need a bunch of morons to be not breathing on each other for a minute.
Well said.

Put the 2A aside for a second, yes people have the right to keep and bear arms, but can we at least admit that these aren't calm people making measured decisions right now? I'd wager these panic purchases are mainly going to two kinds of people: gun nut conspiracy theorists who listen to Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones and rant about boogaloo on Reddit from their basement, and people who have never owned and maybe never even shot a gun before but are now bringing one into their home out of pure fear without any real understanding of the responsibility of gun ownership and lacking any necessary skills to actually deploy one effectively. Level headed gun owners are not panic buying guns right now, we mostly have what we need and we know the things we want can wait until we don't have to risk contracting and spreading a life threatening disease to get it.

I agree with Marlene here, although guns are 2A protected, they're not food or water and we shouldn't be risking lives because bubba thinks the gubmint is coming for him or Karen is worried some "thug" is going to break into her gated community to steal her stash of toilet paper and kale chips.

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Speech is protected, yet there are reasoned sanctions placed on some forms of speech.

The 2A is the Second Amendment as well, the 1st. Amendment has priority for a good reason. If it is resonable to place limits on Free Speech then the 2A is also subject to similar restrictions.

And don't let them try the abridge con job, the same language is contained in the 1st Amendment.
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i wonder how many of these people already have guns? is it their 2nd, 3rd, 12th, 29th gun? i have plenty of guns. sure, there are more guns i'd like to have but during a panic is the last time to be buying spare guns.

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lurker wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:56 pm
i wonder how many of these people already have guns? is it their 2nd, 3rd, 12th, 29th gun? i have plenty of guns. sure, there are more guns i'd like to have but during a panic is the last time to be buying spare guns.
Where do they have to go to get ammo?

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Well, you can't order it
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Santa Clara County, one of the Bay Area counties until public health orders to shelter in place, so police can use that justification.

So far the state as taken a light touch and left it up to the counties to respond to the virus in their communities. The CA governor has broad powers if he decides to use them.
Under the authority of the Emergency Services Act, the governor possesses widespread power to respond during a state of emergency such as a pandemic, said Stephen M. Duvernay, senior research fellow at Berkeley Law’s California Constitution Center.

The governor has authority to commandeer private property, including hospitals, medical labs, hotels and motels, and put them under the state’s authority — something Newsom authorized state agencies to do in an executive order issued last week. The governor also has the authority to suspend state regulations. For example, after the 1994 Northridge earthquake Gov. Pete Wilson suspended regulations under the California Environmental Quality Act — a nearly half-century-old law that requires developers to disclose a project’s environmental effects and take steps to reduce or eliminate them — to speed up the recovery efforts.

Newsom has the authority to redirect state funds to help in an emergency, even funds appropriated by the California Legislature for an entirely different purpose. Along with the power to quarantine during a state of emergency, California law gives state health officials — who answer to the governor — the authority to “quarantine, isolate, inspect, and disinfect persons, animals, houses, rooms, other property, places, cities, or localities, whenever in its judgment the action is necessary to protect or preserve the public health.”

The law also allows health officials to “take possession or control of the body of any living person, or the corpse of any deceased person” to prevent the spread of a contagious disease. State health officials can require the sheriff of each county to enforce orders. Newsom used his authority in a historic step on Tuesday to direct the National Guard to be prepared to perform humanitarian missions across the state, which he described as overseeing food distribution and ensuring people aren’t hoarding food at grocery stores.

Through the state agencies under his control, Newsom has authority to call in the national guard to police cities, set curfews, suspend licenses to sell liquor and other services. Under the state’s health and safety code, Newsom could also have people arrested and quarantined in their homes, said Kevin Eckery, who served as a senior aide to Wilson.
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