SCOTUS May Day 2020

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In an odd confluence of events, SCOTUS will consider 10 gun cases at its May 1 conference. During the Covid pandemic and immediately after finding NYSRPA moot, is this a sign of the coming spring? Who knows. But for the court watchers, here's a summary of the 10 cases.
Mance v. Barr – Whether the federal ban on interstate handgun sales violates the Second Amendment or the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment.

Rogers v. Grewal – In a challenge to New Jersey’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Pena v. Horan – In a challenge to a California law banning most commonly used handguns, the petition asks the justices to weigh in on the scope of the Second Amendment.

Gould v. Lipson – In a challenge to Massachusetts’ handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Cheeseman v. Polillo – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Ciolek v. New Jersey – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Worman v. Healey – Challenge to Massachusetts ban on the possession of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

Malpasso v. Pallozzi – In a challenge to Maryland’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry handguns outside the home for self-defense.

Culp v. Raoul – Whether the Second Amendment requires Illinois to allow nonresidents to apply for a concealed-carry license.

Wilson v. Cook County – Challenge to Cook County’s ban on assault rifles and large-capacity magazines, as well as to the Second Amendment analysis used by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit to uphold the ban.
This link provides links to each case.
https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/04/afte ... ore-293439

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Roberts seems to be the swing vote and SCOTUS likes to combine cases - they define the issues that will be argued before them. I'd expect concealed carry, assault weapons restrictions, mag limitations...to be combined or the conservative majority will look for the strongest and clearest case to hear. Smaller cases with real issues not mooted ones like NYSRPA vs CNY can have a big impact. To me Pena is a small case but it sends a strong message of don't create a law that makes it impossible to comply with.
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Pena is similar to NYSRPA in that it is an odd law (roster) that only impacts one place, as well as being patently absurd. I would very much like assault weapons and magazines to be removed from the political armory, so if I could pick one, it would be Worman. It is a simple hardware test ala Heller and an issue that desperately needs to be settled before we have more Virginia movements.

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 3:39 pm Today, they only released one decision, on a lawsuit against Sudan for victims of Al Qaeda.
While likely import and worthwhile (I know nothing of that case), it's been 10 years since SCOTUS has taken a 2nd amendment case. No other right contained in the bill of rights is so neglected. States like California pass whatever they can dream up to further restrict firearms access knowing it will take 10 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to litigate it up to SCOTUS where it will most likely be ignored. It's fucking aggravating.

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The one good thing that could have come from a Trump/Republican administration, especially when they held both houses of Congress, would have been the protection an expansion of the 2nd Amendment. HPA is dead, concealed carry reciprocity is dead, and from the looks of things the Republican-majority SCOTUS is just going to keep pushing these cases down the road indefinitely. We couldn't even get one beneficial outcome from this shitshow of a government.

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kronkmusic wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:03 pm The one good thing that could have come from a Trump/Republican administration, especially when they held both houses of Congress, would have been the protection an expansion of the 2nd Amendment. HPA is dead, concealed carry reciprocity is dead, and from the looks of things the Republican-majority SCOTUS is just going to keep pushing these cases down the road indefinitely. We couldn't even get one beneficial outcome from this shitshow of a government.
It was always a lie. If they resolve 2A issues, they have nothing to run against while the anti-2A will have all the energy.

Same with Roe. They need a controversial issue for fundraising and distraction so we will ignore the assault on voting rights. Did anyone notice that previously-banned "poll watchers" are now allowed to be deployed in 2020? Thanks, SCOTUS!

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featureless wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:04 am In an odd confluence of events, SCOTUS will consider 10 gun cases at its May 1 conference. During the Covid pandemic and immediately after finding NYSRPA moot, is this a sign of the coming spring? Who knows. But for the court watchers, here's a summary of the 10 cases.
Mance v. Barr – Whether the federal ban on interstate handgun sales violates the Second Amendment or the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment.

Rogers v. Grewal – In a challenge to New Jersey’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Pena v. Horan – In a challenge to a California law banning most commonly used handguns, the petition asks the justices to weigh in on the scope of the Second Amendment.

Gould v. Lipson – In a challenge to Massachusetts’ handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Cheeseman v. Polillo – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Ciolek v. New Jersey – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Worman v. Healey – Challenge to Massachusetts ban on the possession of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

Malpasso v. Pallozzi – In a challenge to Maryland’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry handguns outside the home for self-defense.

Culp v. Raoul – Whether the Second Amendment requires Illinois to allow nonresidents to apply for a concealed-carry license.

Wilson v. Cook County – Challenge to Cook County’s ban on assault rifles and large-capacity magazines, as well as to the Second Amendment analysis used by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit to uphold the ban.
This link provides links to each case.
https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/04/afte ... ore-293439
Pena, Gould, Ciolek, Worman, Malpasso, Culp, Rogers and Cheeseman denied today. Looks like SCOTUS won't be offering 2A rights relief. Brace for what will come from a dem sweep.

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In the wake of all the firearm-related cases not being granted cert, here is a quote from a broader article about Roberts. It's worth considering the source, but I had heard something similar before from another source.
EXCLUSIVE: Inside John Roberts' surprising streak of liberal wins
Roberts also sent enough signals during internal deliberations on firearms restrictions, sources said, to convince fellow conservatives he would not provide a critical fifth vote anytime soon to overturn gun control regulations. As a result, the justices in June denied several petitions regarding Second Amendment rights.

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Roberts is looking at his place in history, he doesn't want to be seen as the CJ who presided over a highly partisan federal judiciary and he's starting with his own court. When O'Connor and then Kennedy were the swing votes, Roberts reliably voted with the conservative block, now it's more his court. He hasn't changed his stripes he's still a conservative, but rulings seem to be narrower. Roberts gave DACA temporary life support he didn't permanently save it, Trump could abolish it tomorrow if he followed the law. The justices are a rather provincial group and they all live in Washington, an anti-gun city.
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