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Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:39 pm
by KVoimakas
ErikO wrote:
KVoimakas wrote:
ErikO wrote:Some eFilers have had their stuff back in three months. It seems that the eForm has created another stack separate from the paper one.
Wasn't there an issue with the eFilers not getting an actual tax stamp back though?
Not that I have heard from anyone here in MO.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/1 ... ght-legal/
Recently, I have seen a number of people posting approved e-Form applications (Form 1′s), which had me greatly concerned given the translucent nature of the newly utilized electronic stamp. After receiving these approved eForm apps by email, some of the applicants have called the NFA Branch and been told that they will not be receiving a hardcopy and that the electronic copy is their approved tax stamp. But as explained below, there appears to be a…wait for it…loophole in relation to Form 1 Applications. As made explicitly clear by 27 C.F.R. 479.162, ATF’s newly utilized electronic stamps are unlawful and invalid . . .


To start, most gunnies are generally aware that 26 U.S.C. 5811 (dealing with transfers if of National Firearms Act firearms) and 26 U.S.C 5821 (dealing with making National Firearms Act firearms) require the payment for and receipt of a tax stamp for the transfer and making of NFA firearms. Both hold that “The tax imposed by subsection (a) of this section shall be payable by the appropriate stamps prescribed for payment by the Secretary.” Before moving on, just so everyone is clear, the provisions of the NFA discussed below refer to the “Secretary” rather than the “Attorney General”; however, the relevant powers and functions of the Secretary of the Treasury were transferred to the Department of Justice, under the general authority of the Attorney General, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 599A(c)(1).

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:46 am
by DoctorB
Time to update this section, and fast:
Title 27: Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
PART 479—MACHINE GUNS, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND CERTAIN OTHER FIREARMS
Subpart E—Tax on Making Firearms

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§479.61 Rate of tax.

Except as provided in this subpart, there shall be levied, collected, and paid upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of $200 for each firearm made. This tax shall be paid by the person making the firearm. Payment of the tax on the making of a firearm shall be represented by a $200 adhesive stamp bearing the words “National Firearms Act.” The stamps are maintained by the Director.

[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10508, Mar. 31, 1988]

and

§479.162 Stamps authorized.

Adhesive stamps of the $5 and $200 denomination, bearing the words “National Firearms Act,” have been prepared and only such stamps shall be used for the payment of the transfer tax and for the tax on the making of a firearm.

[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10511, Mar. 31, 1988]

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:55 pm
by Dropbear
10 months and two days after mailing the application, I got a call that my stamp has arrived!

Short barrel GBI riot gun, here I come!!

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:04 pm
by KVoimakas
Dropbear wrote:10 months and two days after mailing the application, I got a call that my stamp has arrived!

Short barrel GBI riot gun, here I come!!
Lucky you!

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:37 am
by DoctorB
Yeah! Woot! How about a picture?

This is my new ritual: every month that passes I will commemorate with a post marking the BATF boondoggle of inefficiency and deliberate delay. Or the BATFBOIADD.

Nine months.

Dropbear wrote:10 months and two days after mailing the application, I got a call that my stamp has arrived!

Short barrel GBI riot gun, here I come!!

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:49 pm
by Dropbear
DoctorB wrote:Yeah! Woot! How about a picture?

Dropbear wrote:10 months and two days after mailing the application, I got a call that my stamp has arrived!

Short barrel GBI riot gun, here I come!!

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:51 pm
by DoctorB
That is a fabulous thing. I would create a locking wall mount and put it on the wall in my front room for awhile. :laugh:

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:08 pm
by KickABuck
KickABuck wrote:Been waiting since February on two stamps, haven't checked status.. Will get a pleasant surprise one day.

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My suppressor stamp came in Dec 20th, just over 10 months total. I'm still waiting on the SBR, which was sent about a week later.. hopefully I get that before the first of the year.

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:43 pm
by KVoimakas
Time for my monthly call:

BATFE said they have new people 'on the line' (working the NFA queue) and they expect more to come along here shortly. When I asked if this could mean a shorter time frame, I was told 'definitely...well, we can hope so!' by the woman I spoke with.

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:17 pm
by DoctorB
Well, KickABuck, you know we demand Pictars when the toys get out of jail!

Looks like NFA Tracker is reporting just about 10 months give or take, for those submitted in Late Feb, early March, for Oregon and Washington anyway.

I haven't called NFA yet; I was advised by the dealer to leave them alone. (YMMV as they say).

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:58 pm
by drjaydvm
Sent in form in August, pending in October. Called today and was told I would have it by August 2014.

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:23 pm
by DoctorB
Yep, that makes sense. When news of this Trust thing hit the intar-tubes it seemed likely that a new flood would hit the NFA branch, sorry to hear the news though. As if it weren't bad enough already.

On the bright side, you'll be ahead of the people submitting forms today and last month, etc. etc. etc.! :smart:

Confession time: I have been toying with the idea of scooting in one last one before the virtual ban hits in June, rated for the .338 Lapua. :evil:

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:53 am
by Modeler
I have 4 in process...

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:45 am
by DoctorB
Today marks 318 days on my Form 4 Trust. Not like I'm counting or anything. When I contemplated this, I thought waiting would not be a problem for someone my age.

:laugh:

NFA Tracker shows that I am not the only March 15 2013 one still waiting, most of those reported for that date are still pending.

10 months 12 days. And not counting.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:47 pm
by dan360
My first NFA items took 88 days from time I filled out the paperwork at the gun store until they were in my hand. Including LEO signoff, fingerprints, etc.

Next ones took about 5 months. Next ones 8 months. Next ones 9 months. Current toys I think will be in quarantine for about 10-12 months.

10.5 months

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:04 am
by DoctorB
Waiting no longer.

Dealer sat on the application 2 weeks, ( :shifty: ) so from then to received, 10.5 months; purchase to received 11 months. Thanks for sitting on it for two weeks, WADES IN BELLEVUE, assholes.

Spectre II is as well made and quiet as advertised and said to be, on the intarnets.
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Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:15 am
by ErikO
I'm waiting to see what happens with the re-hashed HB436 before I file any federal paperwork. If it goes through, and the Missouri laws requiring Fed paperwork on NFA devices gets overturned as part of it, I might be able to have the fender washers near the muffler pipes. I may possess things that can't leave the state but I'm ok with that. ;)

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:49 am
by DoctorB
So long as you keep them away from the shoulder thing that goes up you should be all right.

What's your feeling on the likelihood of passage?

Re: 10.5 months

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:26 am
by SwampGrouch
DoctorB wrote:Waiting no longer.

Dealer sat on the application 2 weeks, ( :shifty: ) so from then to received, 10.5 months; purchase to received 11 months. Thanks for sitting on it for two weeks, WADES IN BELLEVUE, assholes.

Spectre II is as well made and quiet as advertised and said to be, on the intarnets.
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The cows won't know what to think!

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:28 am
by DoctorB
The quote will be: "moooo-OOOOO?"

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:12 am
by KVoimakas
Called BATFE Friday. Expected date pushed back another month. Brings it to a full year.

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:34 am
by DoctorB
Only people who have done The Long Wait appreciate the joke of "It gets easier every month". :laugh:

(hint: it doesn't.) :sad:

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:39 pm
by KVoimakas
PICKED IT UP TODAY

10 months, to the day, since the paperwork was sent in.

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:15 pm
by DoctorB
What, ALREADY? :laugh:

So. pictures are required, you know? We need a foot tapping smiley.

:happy2:

Re: How many of us are waiting for your NFA stamp? How long?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:13 pm
by KVoimakas
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