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Is it worth the wait?

#1 Post by M4Builder » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:21 pm

For those of you who have been through the ATF wait for class 3, is it worth it? Specifically for suppressors and SBRs. I've got my eye one a particular rifle/suppressor combo at work and I'm not sure how much trouble it is to get everything settled and what all is involved.
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#2 Post by Simmer down » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:57 pm

Waiting is one of a few things left that doesn't cost anything. Go for it.
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#3 Post by ErikO » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:04 pm

While I fail to see logic at all behind the NFA, I will say that increased hearing protection is worth the wait as is the reduced weight of SBR's and SBS's. It sounds like the wait time on Form 3's is getting shorter, after my SOT 03 comes back at some point after July 1st I'll let you know. ;)
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#4 Post by whitey » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:06 pm

Totally off topic but, I was in Titusville last week and found a real deal NY pizza place. The owner's are from the Canarsie section of Brooklyn and they know what they're doing when it comes to pizza. Mamma Rosa's on Cheney Hwy. Thank me later.
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#5 Post by JoelB » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:01 pm

I'm always happy to hear about any NY pizza stores. The sad thing is that very few are left in the city.

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#6 Post by M4Builder » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:43 pm

whitey wrote:Totally off topic but, I was in Titusville last week and found a real deal NY pizza place. The owner's are from the Canarsie section of Brooklyn and they know what they're doing when it comes to pizza. Mamma Rosa's on Cheney Hwy. Thank me later.
Good, I'll probably get fat off that. Thanks. Back on topic, Would submitting 2 forms, 1 for sup. and 1 for sbr, at the same time get them back pretty close together? BTW, this rfle is expensive, I did't realize how expesive til today. $2,750 retail.
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#7 Post by KnightsFan » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:41 am

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whitey wrote:Totally off topic but, I was in Titusville last week and found a real deal NY pizza place. The owner's are from the Canarsie section of Brooklyn and they know what they're doing when it comes to pizza. Mamma Rosa's on Cheney Hwy. Thank me later.
Good, I'll probably get fat off that. Thanks. Back on topic, Would submitting 2 forms, 1 for sup. and 1 for sbr, at the same time get them back pretty close together? BTW, this rfle is expensive, I did't realize how expesive til today. $2,750 retail.
Whitey is it good enough to be worth a trip from Orlando?

And will you get a deal on it or pay full retail?
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#8 Post by whitey » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:47 am

Yes it's worth the trip.
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#9 Post by M4Builder » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:13 am

KnightsFan wrote:
M4Builder wrote:
whitey wrote:Totally off topic but, I was in Titusville last week and found a real deal NY pizza place. The owner's are from the Canarsie section of Brooklyn and they know what they're doing when it comes to pizza. Mamma Rosa's on Cheney Hwy. Thank me later.
Good, I'll probably get fat off that. Thanks. Back on topic, Would submitting 2 forms, 1 for sup. and 1 for sbr, at the same time get them back pretty close together? BTW, this rfle is expensive, I did't realize how expesive til today. $2,750 retail.
Whitey is it good enough to be worth a trip from Orlando?

And will you get a deal on it or pay full retail?
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#10 Post by shinzen » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:17 am

Haven't gone through the process, but if it was an option where I live, I'd absolutely be doing so.
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#11 Post by whitey » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:35 am

Can you provide a pic of the rifle or a link? Inquiring minds want to know.
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#12 Post by M4Builder » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:59 pm

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#13 Post by whitey » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:34 pm

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#14 Post by Fukshot » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:55 pm

whitey wrote:Image
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#15 Post by senorgrand » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:14 pm

A supressor is fun that can be used for multiple firearms.

CA law prohibits us from owning supressors, which is probably the only reason I want one. ;)

Although in Dan Baum's book, he talks about how truly enjoyable it is to shoot a firearm without the need for hearing protection. It can be a much more Zen-like experience.
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#16 Post by fknauss » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:18 pm

I really want to but a suppressor on my Mountie. Yes, I'd have to jigger the feed tube. But Just imagine the fun of quiet subsonics with a lever gun...
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#17 Post by shinzen » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:12 pm

:laugh: I'm just picturing a suppressed 45/70. Lobbing 400gr Bear rounds.

So on further reflection of your choice, I'm afraid I must fully endorse the purchase of said rifle and suppressor. Sorry man.

Although. Just thinking out loud here, could you go with something like the YHM QD suppressor mount and have it permanently pinned on? That way you'd only have to get the stamp for the suppressor instead of both the rifle and the suppressor?
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#18 Post by M4Builder » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:42 pm

shinzen wrote::laugh: I'm just picturing a suppressed 45/70. Lobbing 400gr Bear rounds.

So on further reflection of your choice, I'm afraid I must fully endorse the purchase of said rifle and suppressor. Sorry man.

Although. Just thinking out loud here, could you go with something like the YHM QD suppressor mount and have it permanently pinned on? That way you'd only have to get the stamp for the suppressor instead of both the rifle and the suppressor?
The QDC suppressors only work with our MAMS and other QDC muzzle devices. One one hand, I could go with the Non-SBR variant but If I get the SBR, I can throw our 9.5" .300 BLK upper with a suppressor on for HD.
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Re: Is it worth the wait?

#19 Post by shinzen » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:09 pm

I hadn't really considered that. Totally forgot that you have an open license when you have the stamp on the lower- you could do most any config you felt like. Damn.
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#20 Post by ErikO » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:44 am

That is a very nice looking rifle. :)
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#21 Post by nwguy » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:19 pm

shinzen wrote::laugh: I'm just picturing a suppressed 45/70. Lobbing 400gr Bear rounds.
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#22 Post by senorgrand » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:25 pm

nwguy wrote:
shinzen wrote::laugh: I'm just picturing a suppressed 45/70. Lobbing 400gr Bear rounds.
There's something to be said about hitting a target with the power of a freight train, but politely sparing it the shock of sounding the horn.
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#23 Post by fknauss » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:50 pm

You could do that:

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But I want to do it to the .22.
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#24 Post by KVoimakas » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:44 pm

I had a 10 month wait for my can, to the day. Totally worth it, especially if you do any kind of "bring your noob friend out to shoot" stuff. Nothing like NOT having the crack of the .22 when you're demoing safety and how to shoot. They also have an easier time of hearing you without hearing protection.
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#25 Post by pod » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:41 pm

The NFA, especially for suppressors, is pointless, but the wait is worth it. I got my can in about 4 months from purchase to possession. It's a Silencerco Specwar 7.62 - while heavy, the noise reduction is unparalleled.

The initial host was a Colt LE6920 "M4Gery" carbine. It definitely dampens the blast and makes shooting it even mor enjoyable.
The "Zen" moment came when I did a 300 BLK build and shot subsonic...wow.

Don't see the point for SBRs and SBS either, nor do I see the point for machine guns.

I have a feeling the latter will never be taken off the NFA since no politician wants to be the guy who "put machine guns back on the streets..." /sarcasm

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