Apologies if this is the wrong place or if this was just covered.
I have one of those ugly, cheap Mosin Nagant suppressors from the amazon site. Looks a little bit like this. Reviews were not especially glowing, but I figured that would just add some authenticity by reflecting that Soviet work and manufacturing ethic.
Is there historic precedent for a suppressor on a Mosin Nagant? Also, given the lousy reviews, is there anything I could do with this thing to make it more than a glorified paperweight?
And while I'm at it, is there a scope for same weapon that is at least similar to the originals but will not break the bank? And how unrealistic is it to think I might be able to install said historic scope myself (I am not a gunsmith or even slightly handy)?
Thanks much.
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2You can get reproduction scopes and mounts, I had one on my Mosin for awhile before deciding to bastardize it completely. The install isn't for the faint of heart, I'm handy, but decided to let my gunsmith install it- requires drilling, tapping, and stock modifications for the repro mount. A good quality reproduction scope and mount will run $300 or more, I have not seen the cheaper ones getting good reviews- too much recoil for a crappy optic.
The brake I would not recommend. Those NC star twist on brakes are very cheap metal and finish, rust begins almost immediately. A smith can thread the barrel and put on a good quality brake. The brake and smith work will be about what you paid for the Mosin.
I went crazy with mine, it shoots under .5 MOA groups when I'm doing my part. But definitely spent some cash on it.
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The brake I would not recommend. Those NC star twist on brakes are very cheap metal and finish, rust begins almost immediately. A smith can thread the barrel and put on a good quality brake. The brake and smith work will be about what you paid for the Mosin.
I went crazy with mine, it shoots under .5 MOA groups when I'm doing my part. But definitely spent some cash on it.
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3Oh, and if you want, I have the repro still. I'd have to check and see what I have it up on the for sale section at if you are interested, its just taking up space at the moment
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4Isn't the point of a muzzle break to tame muzzle rise so you can stay on target for quick follow-up shots?
If so, why would anyone put one on a bolt action rifle?
If so, why would anyone put one on a bolt action rifle?
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5Also helps with felt recoil.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/ ... s-and-cons
No biggie on a 223, but bigger calibers, sure.
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http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/ ... s-and-cons
No biggie on a 223, but bigger calibers, sure.
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6Recoil with that thing is pretty heavy. Lifted any of us out of the chair when we took it to the range. I marvel at the thought of starving Russians able to fire that thing, and not go tumbling off the ledge of any bombed-out buildings they were shooting from of in Stalingrad.
Would be nice to get it all dressed-up. But I wouldn't want to do anything to it that isn't consistent with pre-1944.. Minus that whole being shot by my own side if I don't advance, of course.
I reckon if I start saving now, I may have enough saved for a scope about the same time the Confederated Republics of Free Mars elect their third president.
Would be nice to get it all dressed-up. But I wouldn't want to do anything to it that isn't consistent with pre-1944.. Minus that whole being shot by my own side if I don't advance, of course.
I reckon if I start saving now, I may have enough saved for a scope about the same time the Confederated Republics of Free Mars elect their third president.
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7Point taken.shinzen wrote:Also helps with felt recoil.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/ ... s-and-cons
No biggie on a 223, but bigger calibers, sure.
But, "Most muzzle brakes will cut recoil by 50 percent." ???
Is that remotely true in anyone's experience? I have used them on a .223 AR and a .30-06 Garand, and haven't noticed any difference in felt recoil. They do help control muzzle rise though -- on a semi-auto.
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8I haven't really done a side by side, but 50% seems a wild exaggeration. But gas operated actions already reduce recoil a fair bit, and I don't have one on a bolt, so I could be wrong.
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9you mean something like this?
Be sure to make good choices when you're being stupid...
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10If you just want to tame recoil, get a slip-on recoil pad like this:
It does that quite well, there's no permanent change to the gun and you have significantly more grip on your shoulder than the stock buttplate.
It does that quite well, there's no permanent change to the gun and you have significantly more grip on your shoulder than the stock buttplate.
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11It's not at it's best as a seated range rifle, it can beat you up pretty good. The limbsaver is a better option, IMO. I have a supercell recoil pad on my benchrest Mosin, it makes a substantial difference.Cusidhe wrote:Recoil with that thing is pretty heavy. Lifted any of us out of the chair when we took it to the range. I marvel at the thought of starving Russians able to fire that thing, and not go tumbling off the ledge of any bombed-out buildings they were shooting from of in Stalingrad.
Looks like this is pretty similar in quality to the kit I got, about $300 including the mount and scope kit.Would be nice to get it all dressed-up. But I wouldn't want to do anything to it that isn't consistent with pre-1944.. Minus that whole being shot by my own side if I don't advance, of course.
I reckon if I start saving now, I may have enough saved for a scope about the same time the Confederated Republics of Free Mars elect their third president.
http://www.amazon.com/RSM-Russian-Mosin ... B00H9VGGS8
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12The muzzle brake defeats the secondary purpose of the Mosin Nagant rifle, which is to re-set shoulders dislocated via shooting the Mosin Nagant rifle.
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13FWIW, I got mine here:
http://www.accumounts.com/russian-mosin.html
If you are interested in the scope and mount, I had it up in the for sale section as a combo for $150, but it's been sitting for a bit, so I'd let it go for $100. You would need to buy the rail listed on the webpage above in order to install it on your Mosin.
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3 ... 16&t=33291
If you're interested that is. I would still recommend professional install. Guessing $80-$100 from a reputable smith. Or if you know a handy person with a drill press it could be done, but level is critical for the rail.
http://www.accumounts.com/russian-mosin.html
If you are interested in the scope and mount, I had it up in the for sale section as a combo for $150, but it's been sitting for a bit, so I'd let it go for $100. You would need to buy the rail listed on the webpage above in order to install it on your Mosin.
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3 ... 16&t=33291
If you're interested that is. I would still recommend professional install. Guessing $80-$100 from a reputable smith. Or if you know a handy person with a drill press it could be done, but level is critical for the rail.
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14In Soviet Russia the Mosin suppressed you!
Glad that federal government is boring again.
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15I always forget about the other areas of the forum. I set it up to look at the active topics and miss some of the other stuff if I'm gone for too long.
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16I have a friend who put one of these on is M44:
http://texasprecisionproducts.com/product/m-44/
Ugly as sin and far from "period authentic", but he swears by it and claims that it really tames recoil. After several hundred rounds, it hasnt budged. Maybe due to the way the design incorporates the front sight as a partial anchor.
Was thinking of getting one for my T53...
http://texasprecisionproducts.com/product/m-44/
Ugly as sin and far from "period authentic", but he swears by it and claims that it really tames recoil. After several hundred rounds, it hasnt budged. Maybe due to the way the design incorporates the front sight as a partial anchor.
Was thinking of getting one for my T53...
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17Looks like it attaches much like a 91/30 bayonet.DamnYankee wrote:I have a friend who put one of these on is M44:
http://texasprecisionproducts.com/product/m-44/
Ugly as sin and far from "period authentic", but he swears by it and claims that it really tames recoil. After several hundred rounds, it hasnt budged. Maybe due to the way the design incorporates the front sight as a partial anchor.
Was thinking of getting one for my T53...
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