Serbu Shorty; Tacticool or Tacticrap

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Serbu Shorty; Tacticool or Tacticrap

#1 Post by kr0ptkin » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:30 pm

I'll be the first to admit I love niche and tacticool style firearms. Having a Vepr 12 I began looking at something more compact and practical. I have a 20ga I use for hunting but am more interested in a self-defense style arm. I saw a few videos of he Serbu and am wondering whether Its worth the hefty price tag. I don't have any AOWs and am waiting on my first Suppressor Stamp so this would be another step into NFA land as well. Anyone who has seen or read anything particularly convincing one way or the other and wants to dis/en-courage this purchase let me know!

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#2 Post by atxgunguy » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:08 pm

Mossberg has their completely non-NFA Shockwave.

https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/

Local gun show had one for $400. Simple 4473 and the NICS is all that's needed.
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#3 Post by Simmer down » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:18 pm

I imagine either one will beat you silly, if that's your goal. :see_stars:
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#4 Post by atxgunguy » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:21 pm

Simmer down wrote:I imagine either one will beat you silly, if that's your goal. :see_stars:
Coworker just bought one. We're heading out to his farm next week to try it out. I hope I don't break my wrist. :ohmg:
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#5 Post by kr0ptkin » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:13 pm

atxgunguy wrote:
Simmer down wrote:I imagine either one will beat you silly, if that's your goal. :see_stars:
Coworker just bought one. We're heading out to his farm next week to try it out. I hope I don't break my wrist. :ohmg:

I was looking at the Shockwave as a compromise decision so I would love to hear if the recoil is as bad as folks say! Wish I had buddies who wanted to get the fun guns first...
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#6 Post by nigel » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:58 pm

I still don't understand why the Shockwave isn't a short barrel shotgun. Is it because it's just a pistol chambered in 12 gauge?
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#7 Post by senorgrand » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:01 pm

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#8 Post by nigel » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:07 pm

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#9 Post by kr0ptkin » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:19 pm

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Beautiful!

Both the Browning and Clyde that is.
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#10 Post by DavidMS » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:44 pm

I question the value of the PG shotgun. It look cool and would be ideal for smashing locks but the problem is that unlike a shotgun which has 3-points of contact (hands and shoulder) it has only two (hands) which reduces control ability and probably slows down follow up shots. Where concealability is a concern, I'd lean towards an automatic pistol in .32, .380 or 9mm or .38 revolver.

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#11 Post by kr0ptkin » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:28 pm

DavidMS wrote:I question the value of the PG shotgun. It look cool and would be ideal for smashing locks but the problem is that unlike a shotgun which has 3-points of contact (hands and shoulder) it has only two (hands) which reduces control ability and probably slows down follow up shots. Where concealability is a concern, I'd lean towards an automatic pistol in .32, .380 or 9mm or .38 revolver.
I currently carry a .380 or 9 regularly but liked the idea of a 12ga carry... but either way I think you're points are valid. I've read the Shockwave has fairly decent hip-fired stability but you can only get so much from hip firing. I am increasingly being pushed to get a shockwave pending further reviews.
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#12 Post by Bisbee » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:11 am

You know, I actually held the Mossberg 12 ga "pistol" and thought, "What a cool Thunderstick!"

But I'd rather use it like a club than risk firing it at an intruder for fear of injuring myself. The Mossberg has a hand-strap at the pump that got my brain firing on all cylinders to wonder what's the worst that could possibly happen without it.
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#13 Post by atxgunguy » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:02 am

Bisbee wrote:You know, I actually held the Mossberg 12 ga "pistol" and thought, "What a cool Thunderstick!"

But I'd rather use it like a club than risk firing it at an intruder for fear of injuring myself. The Mossberg has a hand-strap at the pump that got my brain firing on all cylinders to wonder what's the worst that could possibly happen without it.
Not to be outdone by Mossberg, Remington also has one of its own.

https://www.remington.com/other-product ... 870-tac-14

The Magpul furniture might be a help or hindrance. I haven't actually seen one of the Remingtons out in the wild yet.
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#14 Post by Simmer down » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:31 am

I have a Winchester 1200 Defender that came like this one
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I added a grip to the front and still I didn't feel like I was in control of it. I found a used full stock and kept it that way since.
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#15 Post by atxgunguy » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:41 am

Hickok45 recently did a video on the Mossberg. Seems like it's solely for "novelty purposes", much like Taurus Judge and Glocks (I kid!, I kid!).

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#16 Post by atxgunguy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:19 pm

Got a first-hand look at the Shockwave last weekend. It's a hoot.

The recoil is surprisingly manageable from both the weaver stance and hip-fired Wyatt Earp style. If held just-so, the front strap + recoil will have a semi-auto/self-loading effect.

We only had #7 and #8 birdshot to play with, but it was doing the job with 10 yards, patterning pretty much like any other 18" barrelled SD-style shotgun. It's rated for slugs and high-brass magnum shells which, while no-doubt causing amusement, would be pretty brutal after a full round of it through the tube.

Overall, it's the Shockwave is well-built, impractically practical, and worth the price. It's on my shortlist of future impulse purchases.
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#17 Post by zzrguy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:12 pm

My uncle has the Sebu I wish I could get one here in lower state No York. It a fun gun remember these are not sniper rifle. Your foreign it for effect loaded with buck shot, buck and ball or turkey/water fowl loads you will hit what ever you are pointing at to shoot.

The big plus is that huge hole the scumbag will be looking down it really will make them think about there next move.

Dont waste your money on a BlackAce gun they are junk I've help a couple of people now with those POS to get them to work half way decent.
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