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I "need" another 22, this time oriented towards clambering around the woods hunting small critters.

Goals:
- Light weight
- Short, threaded barrel (will have a can on it, maybe the Q El Camino? It's light and rugged, or so the internet seems to think)
- Accurate, of course
- Stainless is nice in case it gets wet since it will be used in the field

The T1X: https://www.tikka.fi/en-us/rifles/tikka-t1x/t1x. Prices in the wild at around $470.
Pros:
- 5.3 lbs with a 16" barrel
- Tikka receiver has an integral dovetail so you can have rings clamp directly onto that to save a few ounces (e.g. https://warnescopemounts.com/product/1t ... tte-rings/)
Cons:
- New, unproven rifle, but it'll probably be great if it's anything like the much-loved T3X
- Bolt is stainless but barrel is not

CZ has their new'n'improved 457 with a synthetic stock for about $550 (https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-prova ... sor-ready/) or adjustable AT-ONE for about $600 (https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-varmint-at-one/).
Pros:
- 16.5" barrel
- Proven 455 action
- The AT-ONE stock, while heavy-ish, is something I've considered for one of the 22s I already have (Savage) because its stock is more youth sized...
Cons:
- No stainless parts
- 7.3lbs synthetic, 7.7lbs adjustable

Ruger American Rimfire for about $400: https://ruger.com/products/americanRimf ... /8348.html
Pros:
- Inexpensive
- Has a scope rail built in
Cons:
- 6.7lbs
- The internet seems to think it won't be a tack driver like the CZs
- No stainless parts

Ruger 10/22 Tactical for about $300: https://ruger.com/products/1022Tactical ... /1261.html
Pros:
- Really inexpensive
- 4.3lbs
Cons:
- Fugly
- Likely less accurate
- I'm just not as excited about semi auto 22s for this application

Ruger 10/22 Target Lite for about $500: https://ruger.com/products/1022TargetLi ... 21186.html
Pros:
- 5lb
- Probably more accurate than the 10/22 Tactical?
Cons:
- Not huge on the stock
- Again, not in love with a 10/22 for this

O internet, what say you?

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Just my opinion. While I love 10/22s and have a couple with 16.5 in barrels that shoot better than one MOA and weigh less than 5 lb sans optics, you would be lucky to get one like them out of the box. I have a lot of money in my 10/22s and most of them have no Ruger parts. Since you are not that interested in the 10/22 platform, they are probably off the table.

That said, I have bought two CZ .22s in the last six months and previously had one in .17 HMR. All shoot very well out of the box. I can’t be quantitative because I have not had enough range time with them but they are quite impressive. I have a trainer and an Ultra Lux. Both have relatively long barrels and are pretty heavy so they might not be best for scrambling around in the woods.

That Tikka sure looks cool though. Are they available now? Buy one so you can tell us all about it.

Edit - one more thing: the CZ has interchangeable barrels so you can swap to a .17 HMR so you can vaporize squirrels at longer range.
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Good to know. I have 10/22s also but I just enjoy bolt actions. I only see the T1x for sale outside the US so far but it should be making its way to the states soon enough... I'm leaning towards the Tikka. The CZs look great, and maybe I'll get one for non-hunting use at some point, but at 7+ pounds that's more than a centerfire hunting rifle, which just seems excessive.

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You might consider a Savage Mark II FV-SR, it shoots groups better than my out of the box Ruger Precision .22.

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If a 10/22 is under consideration, consider a Marlin 795. They are more accurate out of the box than a 10/22 (4 shots in a ragged hole at 25 yards), the ones with the plastic stocks are very light (about 4 1/2 pounds), and threading the barrel is trivial. It's a very capable rifle and can be had for about $145 in blue and about $240 in stainless.

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If you get a chance, and you have the opportunity, take a look at the CZ 457 Scout. It’s intended as a young person’s first rifle, and has a relatively short length of pull, but I find it really compelling. It’s short, light, and has a threaded barrel. I think they list for about $350.

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-scout/
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I have a Mark II FV, and it's accurate, but that's the only good thing I can say about it. It rusts despite being kept oiled in a dehumidified environment, the safety is placed so that it's easy to flip it while working the bolt, the tapped holes for scope rings were so far out of whack I had to get adjustable rings in order to be able to zero a scope, the stock is garbage, etc...

I've heard terrible things about Marlin's quality control lately post acquisition by Remington, who has also had egregious quality problems. 🤷‍♂️

I intend to put an optic on the rifle, so while I'd love to have a Scout for other reasons (introducing young folk to shooting), its short LOP would be a problem for me -- somewhere north of 14" is where I want to be -- and the irons would get in the way.

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Argh. It looks like the shorter barrel T1X won't be available in the US, at least not easily, as it's 400mm = 15.7" and therefore an SBR. Unless SBR doesn't apply to rimfire?

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polymath wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:13 am
Argh. It looks like the shorter barrel T1X won't be available in the US, at least not easily, as it's 400mm = 15.7" and therefore an SBR. Unless SBR doesn't apply to rimfire?
SBR does apply to rimfires. Would not be suprized if there is a US Version with a 16"+ barrel. I have a CZ 452 (predecessor to the 455) and its a nice rifle. I would also look at the Tikka.

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According to the rep they do have a 16" barrel, guess it just has to cross the pond.
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Pretty tempting.


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Cheaper to just pay a gunsmith to shorten and rethread the 20" barrel down to 16.5" than it is to pay the $200 SBR tax...

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