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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#26 Post by shinzen » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:44 pm

Call it the "Assault Weapon Community Noise ordinance" or some such thing.
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#27 Post by atxgunguy » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:08 pm

ICanEatFiftyEggs wrote:
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Your useless fucking muzzle brake on your piece of shit no recoil Amateur Rifle that you shoot all over the paper is fucking killing me.
Especially when we're at the 25 yard, indoor range, and they're shooting .308, and we're at the end of the range against the wall. That was some shit.
As someone who was recently at a 25 yard, indoor range...I can attest to it being some shit.

Guy on my right was, "teaching" his girlfriend how to shoot an AKSU Pistol with the worst muzzlebreak in the history of the world. It was loud, very loud. That's also factoring it he was two lanes over and I had numerous layers of ballistic glass between himself and my lane. His girlfriend could barely control it and he was all over the place at 10 yards.

In contrast, the guy on my left was shooting a suppressed FN-SCAR-H and it barely registered on my hearing pro. It was barely a bottle-uncapping's worth of sound.

FFS, muzzlebraked people...go shoot somewhere else or not at all. :thumbdown:
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#28 Post by Marlene » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:09 pm

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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#29 Post by featureless » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:41 pm

My GSR has what Ruger calls a brake on it from the factory. I don't know if it makes it louder or not. I don't know if it reduces recoil or not. I purchased it because it has iron sights and a box magazine in a bolt action. My other rifles wear non ambiguous thread protectors.

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Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#30 Post by DamnYankee » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:20 pm

I’ve been that asshole. A couple of years ago I had a Keltec PLR - their plastic pistol chambered in 5.56- with a bird cage “flash hider” (or is it a muzzle break?) Either way, with a 9in barrel it’s damned loud. Inaugural trip to friends (indoor) range. I had a limited goal of pumping 50 rds through it to check function. A nice couple to the left shooting together. An introductory lesson with instructor and new shooter on the right. I told them what I was doing and that it would be loud. I waited until they had a break and proceeded. Those folks were fine (although the new shooter was curious as to what I would use the gun for, and I didn’t really have a ready answer). At the end of the second magazine, I look around, several other folks had stopped and were watching from behind. No one said anything but I did have the sense that I had disturbed the peace and quiet of the shooting range...To me it wasn’t louder or more concussive than a .357. But I had discounted how much the sound projects to the side. Lesson learned. I now use linear comps. (Or on the AK pistols a 4 piece Bulgarian style muzzle device.) I also don’t shoot rifle calibers indoors much.

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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#31 Post by drigeba » Tue May 01, 2018 12:54 am

oh boy.

This why i love shooting on off days when the range is closed to the public.

But what do you do when an otherwise really nice person is next to you with a muzzlebrake? I feel bad about moving. But as soon as I move i KNOW someone will come and set up next to me with a ...wait for it...

muzzlebrake.

We need a muzzlebrake intervention protocol...
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#32 Post by SubRosa » Tue May 01, 2018 2:20 am

Marlene wrote:
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#33 Post by CrazyWolf » Tue May 01, 2018 4:19 am

Yeah, just explain that everyone will have to pay an extra $200 to the federal government and wait months, and they'll lap it up.
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#34 Post by Marlene » Tue May 01, 2018 8:43 am

I know right?
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#35 Post by SpaceRanger42 » Tue May 01, 2018 6:53 pm

It is possible I was considering a muzzle break for a 9mm carbine until I read this. I opted for a full length barrel shroud instead. i can replace it if I ever buy a can for the thing :)
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#36 Post by Rickoshay » Tue May 01, 2018 8:01 pm

senorgrand wrote:
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You know, this has me thinking. I'm window shopping for a used 44 mag wheelgun and it seems more than a few are ported and some even have brakes. Are these much louder too? I think I'd prefer a plain muzzle, but sometimes you can't be too picky when a good used gun comes along.
Cleaning a "ported" barrel is a major pain in the pants.

Also it is of little to no use in my opinion. YMMV

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#37 Post by TrueTexan » Tue May 01, 2018 8:36 pm

Rickoshay wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 8:01 pm
senorgrand wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:04 pm
You know, this has me thinking. I'm window shopping for a used 44 mag wheelgun and it seems more than a few are ported and some even have brakes. Are these much louder too? I think I'd prefer a plain muzzle, but sometimes you can't be too picky when a good used gun comes along.
Cleaning a "ported" barrel is a major pain in the pants.

Also it is of little to no use in my opinion. YMMV

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No it is Ruger Super Redhawk 7.5 in and Ruger Alaskan saying over and over. :yahoo:
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#38 Post by Marlene » Tue May 01, 2018 9:29 pm

no. its plain ol 6" or 8" 629.
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#39 Post by eelj » Tue May 01, 2018 10:34 pm

I've never been shy of hard kicking weapons. I also don't let real loud ones bother me. I just don't shoot them a lot, plus I reload and can make them pleasant to shoot.

I have very pronounced hearing loss but it comes from my 41 year career with the railroad industry.

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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#40 Post by curtism1234 » Sat May 19, 2018 12:12 am

I have have not shot a muzzle break but have shot short barrel rifles with a lot of muzzle blast. To me, the concussion is worse than the recoil itself. I'd rather shoot my 7mm rem mag than my brother's 7mm-08.

When you are shooting something like a 338 or 375, I think the discussion of a break may come into play because it is a form of torture to shoot more than a couple shots. But to put a brake on much much lesser cartridges is very silly imo. But then again, I am just a humble hunter and not a target shooter...
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#41 Post by dpfeifer » Sat May 19, 2018 10:24 am

A-EFFING-MEN! I wind up beside "this person" about a third of the time I'm at the range under the covered section and with a roof overhead, the compression affects every shooter under it. I've yet to see one possessing a target that DOESN'T look like someone patterning a 410 at 100 yards.
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#42 Post by Jaywalker » Tue May 22, 2018 2:04 pm

The few ported rifles at my range drove me away from rifle shooting. I'd see a ported rifle and I'd start readying my stuff to depart, and it got so I dreaded even planning to go. I don't believe I've shot a rifle now for about nine years, and that was before the muzzle brake ("muzzle break" is something else) craze.

Thanks to Uncle Sam and the VA I now proudly sport two state-of-the-art hearing aids. Life isn't perfect - I still can't tell what direction high-pitched sounds come from, and though I say "what?" a lot less, radios or other conversations completely jam the conversation I'm having.

It's not all firearms, however. I lost a good part of my hearing - the high part - in Uncle Sam's jets, which is why he's paying for my hearing aids. Firearms are becoming something that I do now just often enough to maintain a level of proficiency with my carry weapons - that and a couple of .22 pistols for fun.

Let me urge you that still avoid saying, "what?" to leave the area when a concussive noise is noticeable, even if you've planned the trip for some time. Walking around in a humming haze and being unable to follow friends' conversation is really no fun.
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#43 Post by TrueTexan » Tue May 22, 2018 2:36 pm

Jaywalker wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 2:04 pm
The few ported rifles at my range drove me away from rifle shooting. I'd see a ported rifle and I'd start readying my stuff to depart, and it got so I dreaded even planning to go. I don't believe I've shot a rifle now for about nine years, and that was before the muzzle brake ("muzzle break" is something else) craze.

Thanks to Uncle Sam and the VA I now proudly sport two state-of-the-art hearing aids. Life isn't perfect - I still can't tell what direction high-pitched sounds come from, and though I say "what?" a lot less, radios or other conversations completely jam the conversation I'm having.

It's not all firearms, however. I lost a good part of my hearing - the high part - in Uncle Sam's jets, which is why he's paying for my hearing aids. Firearms are becoming something that I do now just often enough to maintain a level of proficiency with my carry weapons - that and a couple of .22 pistols for fun.

Let me urge you that still avoid saying, "what?" to leave the area when a concussive noise is noticeable, even if you've planned the trip for some time. Walking around in a humming haze and being unable to follow friends' conversation is really no fun.
I hear you loud and clear due to my $6000.00 hearing aides. Maybe Uncle’s B-52s doing low level touch and go over my house or the Federal Q2 sirens on the fire trucks right over my head with 120 decibels. Later the ambulance sirens and shooting without proper protection. It could also be the leaf blowers and the high pitch squeal of edgers and trimmers. These may be the causes my hearing loss.? But it could also be the forty years of marriage with the selective hearing loss and the “ Honey, what did you say” that brought about the need for hearing aides. :D
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#44 Post by Marlene » Tue May 22, 2018 3:14 pm

Just got a rifle with threaded barrel. Might have to find the goofiest trumpet funnel available.
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#45 Post by rascally » Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm

Marlene wrote:Just got a rifle with threaded barrel. Might have to find the goofiest trumpet funnel available.
A thread protector will work just fine without increasing the noise at all...

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#46 Post by CrazyWolf » Fri May 25, 2018 5:37 pm

I have full faith in your ability to fab a gramophone horn attachment. Curious terrier optional.
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#47 Post by zzrguy » Sat May 26, 2018 8:34 am

I think it's a stag arms or Daniel defence muzzle brake it is totally brutal to shoot next too, plus the gas system on the AR dumping out gas threw the rejection port.
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Re: Why I hate your fucking muzzle brake

#48 Post by VodoundaVinci » Sat May 26, 2018 10:35 am

I installed a Area 419 Hellfire Brake on my Savage 6.5 Creedmoor. Tamed the recoil to like that of a .223. I didn't notice it was all that much louder to (still not near as loud as my brothers Les Baer AR in .223 which has no muzzle device at all!) but it sure pissed off the guys near me on the range. Even though I was there first. Anyway...

Due to the shitty looks and constant complaining I removed mine and went back to a thread protector just to keep the Peace and not be "That Guy" at the range. That and being banned at another forum for having an argument about it.

This Brake Hate is a very interesting phenomenon to me. I find it interesting that those of us who use them are vilified as assholes ( obviously we do it just to be annoying - like loud pipes on motorcycles) for using them but the folks who don't use them and are sensitive to the extra noise don't need to defer to me when I'm shooting on the 200 yard range and have been there 20 minutes before Mr. Sensitive showed up and started stomping around holding his head and casting filthy looks and making gestures at me. Brake users are immediately cast as being confrontational or rude range buddies like it's a deliberate act or completely insensitive to "other people" which I'm not.

I don't get it. I comply to keep the Peace but I don't get it. I guess I *am* an asshole.... :sad:

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#49 Post by zzrguy » Sat May 26, 2018 10:58 am

I will admit my Browning A-Bolt with the BOSS in 30-06 I awful to sit next too and in the even it at the end of shooting light during hunting season you are totally blind after the flash
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#50 Post by DougMasters » Sat May 26, 2018 11:06 am

So I've been watching this thread cause I like the discussion about stuff. And in my opinion the second best way to learn about something is to watch people go back and forth with a love hare conversation.

So far as I can easily read, they are loud as fuck.

Now maybe this is naivete from being new to shooting, it also may be due to me already having rock and roll ears, but I own only a basic set of muffs for hesring protection, and I know I've been next to someone at the range with a muzzle break, and to be frank I havent heard anything so loud that its been problematic.

That being said, I usually spend a lot of time at the range when I go and I'm there longer than most so anyone who shows up usually is gone and I'm still hangin around, or they show up near whe I've had my fill. So my whole range trip isn't often dominated by being next to one person the entire time.

But I just haven't noticed a big deal. Am I missin somethin?

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