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Way more pricey. But it can shoot 6.8 or 450 too. And it takes down.

The other advantage is I can buy the lower pre ca ban on semis and then build the rifle post-ban.
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I also liked that your rifle doesn't "SPROING" with every shot, which might be my greatest complaint about the ar. Of course neither does the Ruger.
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As far as AR barrels go, I’m really impressed with what Faxon is doing. They make lightweight barrels that handle heat exceptionally well. Not the cheapest, but well below the cost of top end stuff like Krieger.
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Senorgrand,

I have a SCR as well as a Mini. The SCR is the best CA compliant stock there is. Agree with Marlene on the side charger, but you'll have to mill the proprietary bolt carrier or go with one of the ones that has a cam dealybob.

Try to get you a few side by side photos if it would help.

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Also good to note: because of the laws of certain states, the SCR lower comes without a bolt stop. The part is another $40 from Fight Lite. Just count it in your anticipated cost. I ran a short while without it and skipping it is definitely not worth the money.
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Thanks!
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Couple other notes of comparison. The SCR magazine release is a stretch. The mini release is easier to reach but harder to actuate. SCR wins in reloading magazines, mini requires that rocking thing. The SCR safety is standard 1100 style, I prefer the mini safety but it's in the trigger guard, it's the most intuitive place I've experienced. The SCR can be customized just about any way you see fit, the mini less so.

Summary: I prefer shooting the SCR but would grab either in a pinch.

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Here ya go on photos. SCR upper is a modified M&P15 (ground down FSB). Would like to add wood someday. I would also like to do walnut on the Mini....
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"FSB"?
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front sight base, i think.

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senorgrand wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:23 pm
"FSB"?
Lurker got it. It originally had the front sight block (it was a S&W ar15). Benefit of those is they are pinned (solid) so I ground it down to add the rail.

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I want this

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For everything else, there's American Express... :)

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Senorgrand, that pic does look nice, but I really think that any AR platform rifle should have a free float forend. There's just no good reason not to.
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but wood!
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what's a good price for a lower and bcg?
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but you want it to shoot good

looks like only the pistol lowers are available right now, their lowers run about 550 built, with a plastic stock. prolly want to email them and ask when they expect to have a new run of them.
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senorgrand wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:09 pm
But it can shoot 6.8 or 450 too. And it takes down.
Senorgrand,

Don't mean to talk you out of an SCR (it is my favorite AR pattern rifle), but want to reality check this statement. I don't believe the SCR will accommodate those larger calibers, but I've never looked into it. You may be limited to .300 or 6.5 Grendel, similar to a standard AR15. If you're expecting an easy take down/assembly to switch uppers to a different caliber, you may be disappointed. Also, the trigger is what the trigger is as, it too, is proprietary. Marlene likely has the skill and confidence to improve it. I don't.

Couple of points to consider. The proprietary bolt carrier has a little rat tail thing that goes down into the stock (just like an 1100). This can make mating the upper and lower a bit challenging. It's not terrible, but it's not as straightforward as assembly of a standard AR upper/lower and can result in some swearing (at least by me). Also, because of the proprietary bolt carrier, you'll either need to invest in one for each caliber or deal with changing out bolts every time you change calibers. And there's also the matter of milling the bolt carrier for side charging, should you go that route. I've made due with a standard charging handle and it works fine, especially without a scope. An ambidextrous charging handle would improve it. A side charger would be ideal. I haven't seen anyone that's willing to do the milling (except Marlene). Most use a Gibz upper with a cam pin, which is sort of a half assed route, but works.

At any rate, I've got around 1000 rounds through mine with nary a hiccup. The first upper it wore was a scoped 18". Due to the somewhat heavy trigger, it now wears a mutant 16" with an Aimpoint. It's my preferred home defense tool. If I needed to take a gun on the road for some reason, it would be the Mini simply for its aesthetics in our California-acceptance climate.

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Thanks!

According to the interwebs, it will take the larger calibers, just not the ones like 9mm and 22 lr that require specialized bolts.

I was going to invest in the aftermarket side charging handle.

Is your trigger gen 1 or gen 2?
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senorgrand wrote:
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Is your trigger gen 1 or gen 2?
Gen 1 I believe, back when Ares was the manufacturer. It's not a bad trigger, just not a target trigger (not that it's the trigger holding me back!). It is also the Monte Carlo stock which I prefer.

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Also, I hope to come to the annual meeting and would be happy to bring the mini and SCR if you want to shoot both for "research" purposes. October isn't too far away.

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M: Do you think it's possible to modify a 22 lr or 9mm BCG to fit the SCR BCG?
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^ missed that. anything is possible. Speed is just a matter of money. How fast do you want to go?
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