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FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:21 pm
by bajajoaquin
I recently saw a FightLite (formerly Ares) SCR with wood furniture. That interested me.
This isn't a near-term purchase, for a number of reasons, some obvious. But I am interested in figuring out how I'd be able to build one.

https://fightlite.com/lowers/scr-rifle-lowers

Here's what I'd want and why:
20" medium-weight barrel. I don't envision close-quarters urban fighting, so velocity is more important to me than maneuverability. I don't need a bull barrel, but I've got a Mini-14, so my whippy-barrel needs are met.
1:8 Twist. I understand this is a good compromise between 1:7 and 1:9 that shoots both heavy and light bullets well. I don't target shoot, but I like to ring gongs out at 200 yards occasionally, and I buy ammo based on price, not specs, a forgiving twist is important
Iron Sights. Just not an optics guy. I'll want a rear aperture, because my reading vision has deteriorated, and I can see with those better than a notch. Actually, quite well, without having to qualify the statement.
Wood forend. I don't like rails, accessory stuff and other stuff. Wood, please.

The obvious answer would be a barreled upper. Complete, and requires me to learn the least about how this stuff comes together. Typically has a front sight. However, these come with A1/A2 furniture, and a high-mount front sight. Also barreled uppers typically have a BCG, which I wouldn't need. Or, they have two issues: front sight height and stuff I don't need. I could get an upper with a front sight, but those appear to need a tall rear sight, like on the carry handle. I don't think that looks right with the wood furniture (but might be cool in it's own non-sequitur way). So, to address the issues:

1. Front sight. My understanding of the front sight on M16-style rifles is that it's high, and the rear sight is high up in the carry handle because of the straight stock required by the buffer tube. The SCR doesn't have that, instead having a more standard Monte Carlo-like drop. Without a rail, what's a good way to address this? I"m figuring there's going to be a Picatinny section on the receiver where I can mount a rear sight. How do I figure out what height I need to try to match with availability?

2. Stuff I don't need. What parts do I need to make a complete upper? I wouldnt need a BCG, but everything else. Walk me through this.

3. Or, just convince me that I should get a PSA upper and replace the handguard.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 pm
by Marlene
You want the lowest sights you can get. Probably the best choice for front sight is a gas block that has a bit of rail on top.

Mine has a Faxon pencil weight 16” barrel with a Wylde chamber and rings the gong at 450 far more easily than anyone expects. The handling advantage of the light barrel is huge.

A side charging setup really shines on the SCR, but has to be left side or involve some machining of the carrier.

Mine has tons of custom machine work in it, but still might be a useful reference point for you.
https://theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3/vi ... hp?t=51586

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:10 pm
by lurker
those things are high. i'm afraid i don't see the point.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:15 pm
by featureless
Marlene has cornered the market on customized SCRdom.

Mine's damn basic by comparison. As far as sights, Marlene is correct, go low. I cut down an a2 front site from another upper I had because I wanted it pinned. Went with a rifle length handguard sans cheese grater. I am using an optic (T1) with no irons. Monte Carlo stock is a must, in my opinion. Someday, I'll get a wood one. But it works for me as my primary everything rifle and is the one that comes out of the safe under black out, wildfire and plague conditions. I'll try to get a photo for you.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:16 pm
by featureless
lurker wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:10 pm those things are high. i'm afraid i don't see the point.
The point is you can still use a standard magazine release in ban states and have a more traditional stock. Mine is my favorite "ar".

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:24 pm
by featureless
There's a nice one on that ar15 forum that has some build info.
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Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:53 pm
by Marlene
That IS a nice one!

Lurker, imagine everything you hoped a Mini 14 to be but wasn’t. Imagine if an AR handled like a M1 Carbine rather than like a turd.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:56 pm
by kronkmusic
They are damn cool looking, I will definitely give them that.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:01 pm
by lurker
feature's rife above makes me think of a baby BAR. so there's that.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:24 pm
by featureless
:fishing:
lurker wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:01 pm feature's rife above makes me think of a baby BAR. so there's that.
That isn't mine. I wish it was. There's a photo of mine toward the end of the thread Marlene linked.

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:28 pm
by bajajoaquin
featureless wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:24 pm There's a nice one on that ar15 forum that has some build info.

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Do you have a link?

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:31 pm
by featureless

Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:48 pm
by senorgrand
google image search "scr wood stock" for cool pics

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Re: FightLight SCR Questions

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:46 pm
by bajajoaquin
Thanks.

I'm doubtful that I'll fab much of anything, so I'll be assembling from readily-available parts.

Am I reading this correctly that I'm looking at an upper with rail for the rear sight, then gas block with rail for the front sight? I'm guessing there's some measuring I can do to get the sight heights into the range of adjustment?