Not Again! Shooter attacks Chabad near San Diego

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On the last day of Pasach (Passover), falling on Shabbos (Sabbath), a gunman fired on the Chabad Synagogue in Poway, California.

So far, 4 injured, including 2 children, and a person has been detained.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/san-diego ... l=Linkedin

Chabad is the evangelical arm of the Lubovitch Chasidic ultra-Orthodox sect. It is the most open, dynamic, and "liberal" Chasidic sect, actively seeking to recruit members (from fellow Jews). I've known some who were kind and gentle folks, and others mad as hatters.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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A man was detained for questioning after reports of a shooting at a synagogue in the California city of Poway, according to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department's Twitter account on Saturday. The synagogue is Congregation Chabad, CNN affiliate KGTV reported.
The San Diego Police Department is assisting sheriff's deputies with the incident, according to a tweet from Chief David Nisleit. "No known threats however in an abundance of caution, we will be providing extra patrol at places of worship," Nisleit said.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/27/us/san-d ... index.html

Hope all the victims fully recover.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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All they have stated is that the suspect is a 19 years old from the City of San Diego. He surrendered, making it less likely he's associated with anything like ISIS or other. Sounds more and more like another white supremacist moronic psycho.

Now they are saying he used an "assault weapon" rather than a hand gun--a AR-15 type.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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A gunman armed with a semiautomatic rifle walked into a suburban San Diego County synagogue and opened fire on the congregation Saturday, killing one person and injuring three in an attack that authorities believe was motivated by hate. A 19-year-old was arrested in connection with the shooting, authorities said. The gunman, who is white, entered Chabad of Poway on Chabad Way about 11:20 a.m. and started firing. Poway Mayor Steve Vaus called it a “hate crime,” based on statements the shooter was heard making as he entered the synagogue.

Authorities were reviewing his social media accounts and an “open letter” he reportedly wrote before the attack. They were also preparing to search his home in Rancho Penasquitos. A large group of congregants had gathered behind the temple after the shooting, sheriff’s Sgt. Aaron Meleen said. It was not immediately clear how many people were attending services. Some children were initially reported missing, he said, but they have been found. “As you can imagine, it was an extremely chaotic scene with people running everywhere when we got here,” he said.

Those wounded in the shooting were taken to Palomar Medical Center in Escondido, the Sheriff’s Department said. As the attacker was fleeing the scene, an off-duty Border Patrol agent shot at his vehicle, but he got away, authorities said. He was captured a short time later. Adam Pringle, 32, said he was sitting at a 76 gas station parking lot when a swarm of San Diego police, county sheriff and California Highway Patrol cars descended on the scene less than 50 feet away. Pringle watched as police officers pulled over the man he believed to be the shooting suspect. “Hands up or I’ll shoot you!” Pringle heard the officer yell.

The driver quickly put his hands up, and the officer walked over with his gun drawn, Pringle said. The officer quickly arrested the man, Pringle said. Witnesses said a rabbi is among the injured, reportedly shot in the hand. He apparently continued with his sermon after being wounded, telling people to stay strong. “The rabbi and two other people were injured,” said synagogue member Minoo Anvari, whose husband was inside when the shooting broke out. “One guy was shooting at everybody and cursing.” “One message from all of us in our congregation is that we are standing together. We are getting stronger,” Anvari said. “Never again. You can’t break us. We are strong.

“Why? The question is, why? People are praying.” President Trump offered condolences from the White House lawn Saturday. “At this moment it looks like a hate crime,” he said. “My deepest sympathies to all of those affected. And we’ll get to the bottom of it.” Authorities have cordoned off the area near Rancho Bernardo Road and West Bernardo Drive, about two miles from Chabad of Poway, he said. Several neighbors reported hearing the gunshots, and some were evacuated from nearby homes to the school temporarily as a precaution.

Cantor Caitlin Bromberg of Ner Tamid Synagogue, which is down the street from Chabad of Poway, said her congregation learned of the shooting at the end of their Passover services. Saturday marked the final day of Passover, a holiday that marks the Jewish people’s exodus from Egypt and freedom from slavery. Bromberg said her congregants were en route to Chabad of Poway to show support and help in any way they can. “We are horrified and upset, and we want them to know we are thinking of them,” she told The Times. “The message of the final day of Passover is to be looking forward to … the time when all the world will be at peace.” Bromberg said someone from the congregation had received a text that there was a shooting at a synagogue in Poway. The person who sent the text did not know which temple was targeted and wanted to make sure the congregant was OK. The cantor said she has not heard from Chabad of Poway leadership because they would not normally use the phone during the Sabbath.

“They would only do that on emergency basis, if they do it at all,” she said. In a statement, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum said it was “shocked and alarmed” at the second armed attack on a synagogue in the United States in six months, this time on the on the last day of Passover. “Now our thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones,” Museum Director Sara J. Bloomfield said. “But moving forward this must serve as yet another wake-up call that antisemitism is a growing and deadly menace.

“The Holocaust is a reminder of the dangers of unchecked antisemitism and the way hate can infect a society. All Americans must unequivocally condemn it and confront it in wherever it appears.” San Diego police were keeping watch on other local synagogues as a precaution. “No known threats,” Chief David Nisleit said on Twitter, “however in an abundance of caution, we will be providing extra patrol at places of worship.” In Los Angeles, police said they were closely monitoring the synagogue shooting in Poway and “communicating with our local, state and federal partners.” “At this time, there’s no nexus to Los Angeles, but in an abundance of caution, we will conduct high visibility patrols around synagogues and other houses of worship,” the department tweeted.

Passover is one of the most sacred holidays in the Jewish faith. The eight-day festival is typically observed with a number of rituals, including Seder meals, the removal of leavened products from the home and the sharing of the exodus story. The attack comes six months after a man with a history of posting anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant social media messages opened fire at a temple in Pittsburgh, killing 11 people and wounding six more. The Anti-Defamation League called that incident “the deadliest attack on the Jewish community in the history of the United States” and it underscored growing hate against Jews.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la- ... story.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Maccabee wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:37 pm
K9s wrote:How many hours pass before the right-wingers start claiming "false flag"? I have already heard "thoughts and prayers" so it cannot be long now.
“False flag” has been flying around twitter since the news broke.
I think they say that, not because they believe in the false flag, but because they are evil to the core and want to simply create confusion. As Lenin put it "Keep up the terror", and that bastard KKK founder Nathan Bedford Forrest said "Keep up th' skeer!"

If you can convince enough people to deny, or at least doubt the Holocaust occurred, you have a better chance at creating a bigger one.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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K9s wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:49 pm I think the goal is to sow confusion and destroy truth.

With that in mind, I wonder if Faux News is covering this instead of the MAGA Rally?

Keep your head down and stay vigilant, YT.
Exactly. I (probably stupidly) checked the nearest hand gun safe to ensure the Sig P320 operates smoothly, then put it away again. Shit happens in NJ just like everywhere else. Always expecting it to happen, hoping it never does.

"Looks like a hate crime! Hard to believe! Hard to believe!" -- Donald aka "The Orange Moron" Trump.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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K9s wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:27 pm Yes, the calls for AWB are already happening.
We already have an assault weapon ban in California. In fact, we have two because the first apparently didn't keep nutters from nutting. We also have a "large capacity" magazine ban in effect. And we have registration. And background checks. And prepurchase safety tests. These were supposed to prevent this.

Snark aside, hope survivors recover.

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Police have detained a 19-year-old suspect shortly after responding to reports of a shooting near a San Diego synagogue on Saturday afternoon. One person has died and at least three others were injured.

The man, identified by police as John Earnest, was detained near the synagogue Chabad of Poway and St. John of Damascus Orthodox Church.

At a press conference, officials said an older female died but that the three other victims, including one young girl, are in stable condition.

After shooting inside the temple with an AR-type assault weapon, the suspect was spotted by a Border Patrol agent who opened fire on the teen but missed, officials said. The suspect later turned himself over to police.

The synagogue was hosting its Passover holiday celebration, which was scheduled to begin at 11 a.m., just a half hour before the shooting incident. 10News reported. The celebration was set to end at 7 p.m. with a final Passover meal.

Earnest posted an 8-page manifesto online prior to the attack. In it, the suspect gloats about being from “European ancestry” and expresses his hatred of Jewish people. He says he feels “no remorse” for his upcoming actions that would leave one person dead, and that he took inspiration from the New Zealand mosque shooter that left more than 50 dead in March. Earnest also appeared to be a frequent user of racist gutter forum 8chan, and mentioned his desire for “the day of the rope,” a far-right term about a desire to kill journalists.

Earnest also took credit for an arson at a mosque in Escondido. Police at the time said the arsonist wrote graffiti on the mosque praising the New Zealand shooter.

Rep. Mike Levin (D-Calif.), whose district covers part of San Diego County, said in a tweet more must be done to combat extremism and gun violence.

President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence also condemned the shooting in statements posted to Twitter.

“No one should be in fear in a house of worship. Antisemitism isn’t just wrong ― it’s evil,” Pence wrote.

Speaking outside the White House, Trump told reporters, “At this moment it looks like a hate crime. Hard to believe.”

Saturday also marked the six-month anniversary of the shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue in which a white supremacist killed 11 people.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-with ... 8e35bd0db7

What’s hard to believe about this being a hate crime?
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featureless wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:50 pm
K9s wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:27 pm Yes, the calls for AWB are already happening.
We already have an assault weapon ban in California. In fact, we have two because the first apparently didn't keep nutters from nutting. We also have a "large capacity" magazine ban in effect. And we have registration. And background checks. And prepurchase safety tests. These were supposed to prevent this.

Snark aside, hope survivors recover.
I read somewhere that after 2014 when California "non-white Hispanic" became the second largest minority (passed by "Hispanic" as majority-minority), the real problem became "white supremacists" and not guns.
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Oscar Stewart was focused on the comforting rhythm of the Torah reading when pops of gunfire cut through the sanctuary. Stewart watched fellow congregants of Poway Chabad jump to their feet and run toward the exits as if in slow motion, away from the violence unfolding in the lobby on Saturday morning, the last day of Passover. The 51-year-old Army veteran began to follow them. And then, in a split-second decision, he turned around. Stewart doesn’t know why. In retrospect, the Orthodox Jew thinks it might have been the “hand of God.”

Whatever it was that moved through him in that moment, it propelled Stewart into the lobby. He saw the young man — who authorities say was 19-year-old John T. Earnest — in a military-style vest wielding a semiautomatic rifle. “Get down!” Stewart yelled in the loudest tenor he could muster. The gunman fired two more rounds in response. “I’m going to kill you,” Stewart boomed. This seemed to rattle Earnest, who began to flee.

From his time as a sergeant in the Army, Stewart knew that the rifle would be useless if he was within five feet of it. So he kept close to the shooter as he chased him into the parking lot. The shooter got into a Honda sedan. Stewart, seeing the man reach for his weapon, punched the side of the car. The man started the ignition and let go of the rifle. That’s when Jonathan Morales, an off-duty Border Patrol agent, shot four bullets into the car. As the shooter sped away, Stewart and Morales took down the license plate number.

Stewart sprinted into the synagogue. Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein was standing in the lobby with a prayer shawl wrapped around his bleeding hands. Then Stewart noticed a woman laying face-down on the floor. He flipped her over and recognized her as Lori Gilbert-Kaye. She had been shot near the heart. Stewart had begun attending Poway Chabad in August, and he knew Gilbert-Kaye as a kind, passionate person. They inhabited opposite sides of the political spectrum — he a centrist Democrat, and she a conservative. But they were able to set aside their differences and appreciate their shared faith in God, an inherent goodness. He considered her a friend.

Stewart was helping a fellow congregant perform CPR on Gilbert-Kaye when her husband, a doctor named Howard Kaye, walked over to help. He didn’t seem to notice who she was as he pressed her chest; he was looking at Stewart. As Howard Kaye checked for Lori Gilbert-Kaye’s pulse with a defibrillator, he finally looked down and took in her face. At that moment, a sheriff’s deputy walked into the lobby. Kaye fainted. The next few hours were a blur for Stewart. He found his wife, Lynda — who had been worshiping with the other women when the gunfire began — in the sanctuary. They spent the afternoon at the home of Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein’s son. They were questioned by the FBI. Stewart called his own three sons, all in their 20s, to let them know they were OK.

Stewart, who works as an electrician, could barely sleep Saturday night. He thought of how the day would change his life forever, for better or worse. He was deployed to Iraq for a year in 2003, but never thought he would hear gunfire again — especially in the United States. He said he could no longer be naive about how gun violence might touch his life, now that it had. He thought of the young man with the rifle and how he felt sorry for him. Stewart suspects he will spend decades in prison, at the very least. A life wasted by ignorance.

He thought about how, if he had gotten to the lobby a minute before, maybe no one would have been killed. The Stewarts drove to the synagogue early Sunday, hoping that they would be able to pray in the company of those who understood what they’d been through. It was still roped off with police tape. In an interview with a Los Angeles Times reporter on Sunday afternoon — one of many he gave that day — Stewart said he just wants to get back to his normal life. But he acknowledged that it will likely be a while before that happens.

“I’m not a hero or anything. I just reacted,” he insisted. “I thank God that he gave me the courage to do what I did.”
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la- ... story.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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There is a thread on ar15 dot com by a member of the synagogue and friend of the woman who was murdered. Interesting insider information that the gunman was charged by an unarmed person causing him to pause and flee, then chased and shot at by the offduty boarder patrol officer using a revolver kept at the synagogue. It could have been much worse without those two actions. This isn't the story I've been seeing reported by the press.

Thanks for that link, highdesert.

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