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<t>Which Boomstick to Buy?</t>

Poll ended at Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:05 pm

<t>Doc Holliday Thunderer 45LC, 4 3/4"</t>
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33%
<t>Model P 45LC , 4 3/4" with an additional 45ACP cylinder</t>
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<t>Stainless Frontier .45 LC, 5 1/2"</t>
6
67%
 
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shinzen wrote:
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I'm fairly disappointed that none of the local LGC folks in the bay area have one. I should have been able to shoot one by now. FOR SHAME! :)
I have the smaller framed Lighting. You just didn’t come to the range that week.
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can you bring that to meet in the middle ?
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Might be missing it this year
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I been to SLO, but I never been to Paris.
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oh, damn!
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Marlene wrote:
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shinzen wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:32 pm
I'm fairly disappointed that none of the local LGC folks in the bay area have one. I should have been able to shoot one by now. FOR SHAME! :)
I have the smaller framed Lighting. You just didn’t come to the range that week.
You know you're supposed to bring these things. To all the weeks.
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I been to SLO, but I never been to Paris.
Well hell. You should send your krag and your lightning. They will feel neglected otherwise. Enjoy the hell out of Paris
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Well, mission accomplished. First photo of the new Gat. Cimarron Thunderer 3 1/2" in 45lc with an (not pictured) additional 45ACP cylinder. It really doesn't do the case hardening or grips real justice, but here's a preview.

It's sooo nice. It's got that C-O-L-T hammer and glassy trigger.

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Nice work!

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excellent!
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Soo..base pin is stuck like Chuck. Half cocked and loading gate open, no dice...it only goes out maybe 1/2".

I'm fairly certain there's a burr on or I fucked up putting it back in after cleaning it as it originally came out with no effort. Currently have it soaking in 3 in 1 and am prepared to tap it out the back with a brass punch.

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unscrew and fully disassemble the base pin latch
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oh. Nevermind. I see that you have the older frame style with the retaining screw. Remove the screw entirely.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I did take out the screw (the one beneath the pin)
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Here's what the situation looks like:ImageImage
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Half cock. You’re on the safety notch and may need to be on half cock.

If not that, the grips and grip frame come off to take the hammer off to drive the pin out from the rear.
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Whelp, it's officially disassembled and the base pin is out. I think I may taken things too far.

I'm very confident in putting it back together except a few things aren't readily telling me where they go. The exploded diagram Cimarron provided was not very helpful. They are circled in red.

I also would be incredibly grateful if someone had step by step instructions to help me along my way back to a reassembled gun. The internet has been useless.

This can't be any more complicated than putting a 1911 back together after replacing the beaver tail and thumb safety, right?ImageImage
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Ok, I think the red circled pieces are the band spring and plunger.
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They are. Round end of the plunger faces the hand. Spring backs it up. I forget if there’s a little screw to plug the hole they’re in or if it’s just the grip frame that covers the hole. (Haven’t done this with my own hands in a decade)
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Confirmed, now why would the hammer not lock back to half cock? I have it fully assembled but when I go to install the cylinder and base pin, I can't get the hammer to stay at half cock when the loading gate is open.

First thought is that I didn't get the trigger on the right spot, but the screw/pin seems to only have one location.

Thanks for all the advice so far...I feel I like I'm getting close to figuring this out. I'm sure it's something silly now.
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Are you saying it holds half cock with the loading gate closed but not with the gate open?
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Is the trigger being pushed the right direction by the trigger return spring? (Forwards)
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Found a pair of YouTube videos that wasn't some guy mumbling his way through obscured directions.

It's back together. Apparently I had the bolt/trigger/spring in entirety the wrong spots.

Thanks again to Marlene for helping to guide me through what the heck I was looking at and nudge me through the icky parts.

Hey, at least now know how to completely strip a Colt SA into it's material components. Image

....that goddamn plunger spring. Why, Uberti?!

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