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Bernie announced back on February 19th that he was running for president.
Bernie Sanders had a big week. Not only did he release years of tax returns, but Sanders also seems to have kick-started another Democratic trend: appearing on Fox News. According to tax filings released by the campaign, Sanders, who has made a career out of railing against the ultra wealthy, is officially now a millionaire himself.

The runner up for the 2016 Democratic nomination reported an adjusted gross income of nearly $561,293 in 2018, and paid $145,840 in taxes for a 26 percent effective tax rate. And in 2016 and 2017, Sanders reported raking in $1.06 million and $1.13 million in adjusted gross income, respectively, paying a 35 percent and 30 percent effective rate, according to ABC News.

Tax filings aside, Sanders’ Fox News town hall on Monday broke ratings records for the 2020 cycle so far. And it looks like more Democrats are set to follow his lead, with Sen. Amy Klobuchar quickly announcing her own Fox town hall.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... ng-vol-15/

Average of polls since 10/2018.
Fund raising by 2020 candidates:
https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential ... 40d86.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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highdesert wrote:Bernie announced back on February 19th that he was running for president.
Bernie Sanders had a big week. Not only did he release years of tax returns, but Sanders also seems to have kick-started another Democratic trend: appearing on Fox News. According to tax filings released by the campaign, Sanders, who has made a career out of railing against the ultra wealthy, is officially now a millionaire himself.

The runner up for the 2016 Democratic nomination reported an adjusted gross income of nearly $561,293 in 2018, and paid $145,840 in taxes for a 26 percent effective tax rate. And in 2016 and 2017, Sanders reported raking in $1.06 million and $1.13 million in adjusted gross income, respectively, paying a 35 percent and 30 percent effective rate, according to ABC News.

Tax filings aside, Sanders’ Fox News town hall on Monday broke ratings records for the 2020 cycle so far. And it looks like more Democrats are set to follow his lead, with Sen. Amy Klobuchar quickly announcing her own Fox town hall.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... ng-vol-15/

Average of polls since 10/2018.
Fund raising by 2020 candidates:
https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential ... 40d86.html
So far Bill Maher, for how much of a blow-hard he is, was right. You have to break into the bubble, and I'm so happy Bernie did that and others are following. I'm leaning towards Bernie at this point, and that may change, but I haven't heard another candidate speak to the average American the way Bernie has, focusing on the things that matter most to them and having a well-thought platform for achieving those goals. This primary is going to be interesting, and I argue it's a good thing there are so many seemingly viable candidates. Whoever does not win the Democratic primary will have a well organized fundraising apparatus behind them and will be well positioned to win whatever Senate, House, or Governor seat they eventually vie for.

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I hope so. I don't care that Bernie is as old as DJT. He is a better option than most of the candidates.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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While I have some early preferences, anyone who can't whip Trump's fat suety ass in the General isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss to me!
That's MY bottom line!

But a lovely bonus would be to have enough momentum to take back the Senate.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:50 pm While I have some early preferences, anyone who can't whip Trump's fat suety ass in the General isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss to me!
That's MY bottom line!

But a lovely bonus would be to have enough momentum to take back the Senate.
I agree, but I think we worry too much about that. If we get a good candidate, DJT loses. If we get a compromise candidate "to beat Trump", many D voters will stay home.

I think of it this way: Ds outnumber GOP voters. Every GOP POTUS was revenge by Ds who were sick and tired of getting lousy candidates. The pundit class still doesn't get it. Too many people think that Ds need to go after Trump voters. They ignore the non-GOP voters who want real change.

I think 2017 was when good candidates starting to win primaries they were not supposed to win and, also, wallop lousy D incumbents. If we get another "safe" candidate, most non-Trump people I know will stay home again and Ds will lose the House.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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I think Bernie has a better chance to beat Trump than most. That and the fact that Faiz Shakir (former ACLU political director) is now his campaign manager has me strongly leaning his way. If Bernie can't beat Trump then none of the others can, either. That being said, I fully expect Trump to have a second term no matter what.
"...just smash your piano, and invoke the glory-beaming banjo!" ~Mark Twain

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K9s wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:56 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:50 pm While I have some early preferences, anyone who can't whip Trump's fat suety ass in the General isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss to me!
That's MY bottom line!

But a lovely bonus would be to have enough momentum to take back the Senate.
I agree, but I think we worry too much about that. If we get a good candidate, DJT loses. If we get a compromise candidate "to beat Trump", many D voters will stay home.

I think of it this way: Ds outnumber GOP voters. Every GOP POTUS was revenge by Ds who were sick and tired of getting lousy candidates. The pundit class still doesn't get it. Too many people think that Ds need to go after Trump voters. They ignore the non-GOP voters who want real change.

I think 2017 was when good candidates starting to win primaries they were not supposed to win and, also, wallop lousy D incumbents. If we get another "safe" candidate, most non-Trump people I know will stay home again and Ds will lose the House.
I'm not sure what will make a winner. But I do know that if ALL Dems, particularly the Left, aren't motivated, Trump wins. Moderates won't vote for Trump and I doubt they will stay home. But Progressives and Lefties do if another hack get the nod.

I just want a winner. Period!
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:54 am
K9s wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:56 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:50 pm While I have some early preferences, anyone who can't whip Trump's fat suety ass in the General isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss to me!
That's MY bottom line!

But a lovely bonus would be to have enough momentum to take back the Senate.
I agree, but I think we worry too much about that. If we get a good candidate, DJT loses. If we get a compromise candidate "to beat Trump", many D voters will stay home.

I think of it this way: Ds outnumber GOP voters. Every GOP POTUS was revenge by Ds who were sick and tired of getting lousy candidates. The pundit class still doesn't get it. Too many people think that Ds need to go after Trump voters. They ignore the non-GOP voters who want real change.

I think 2017 was when good candidates starting to win primaries they were not supposed to win and, also, wallop lousy D incumbents. If we get another "safe" candidate, most non-Trump people I know will stay home again and Ds will lose the House.
I'm not sure what will make a winner. But I do know that if ALL Dems, particularly the Left, aren't motivated, Trump wins. Moderates won't vote for Trump and I doubt they will stay home. But Progressives and Lefties do if another hack get the nod.

I just want a winner. Period!
That's my goal too, to find and support a winner. Again I'm looking at the polls with all their flaws because it's the only thing we have, unless you know someone who's good with a crystal ball. National polls and state by state polls still have Biden leading but not in all states, still nine months before primaries/caucuses start.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... _election/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders wants to suspend taxpayer funding of new charter schools and ban those that are for-profit, according to his plan to overhaul public education that he released on Saturday. Saying charter schools are "exacerbating educational segregation," Sanders proposed more transparency and accountability for them, as well as limits on the pay of their chief executives. According to the Sanders campaign, the 10-point plan focuses on "reversing racial and economic segregation that is plaguing elementary and secondary schools."

The current Education secretary, Betsy DeVos, is an advocate for charter schools, which receive public funding but operate independently. Sanders unveiled the plan Saturday ahead of a speech in South Carolina. His campaign said the release of Sanders' Thurgood Marshall Plan for Public Education was timed to coincide with the 65th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education Supreme Court ruling that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional. As head of the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People’s legal fund, Marshall served as chief attorney for the plaintiffs, more than a decade before becoming the first black U.S. Supreme Court justice.

To combat disparities in education funding, Sanders is proposing "large new investments in programs that serve high-poverty communities, support special needs students, and augment local efforts to integrate school districts." That also includes setting a per-pupil minimum for spending in all school districts across the country, as well as a universal school meal plan and a goal of closing "the gap in school infrastructure funding to renovate, modernize, and green the nation's schools." Sanders' plan also proposes investment to raise starting teacher salaries to at least $60,000, as well as grants and tax credits to help teachers defray the cost of school supplies. This is Sanders' first major plan of this campaign for K-12 education reforms. Dating back to his 2016 run for president, Sanders has repeatedly addressed reforms in higher education, including making four-year college free.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Vote your heart in the primaries.

Use your head in the general election.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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K9s wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 9:18 pm Vote your heart in the primaries.

Use your head in the general election.
Yup. Or vote your dreams and hopes in the primaries. Vote to oust Trump and the ReTrumplican Senate no matter the cost in the general.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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The United States is one of the oldest continual governments in the world. I believe only the UK and Switzerland have had the same government longer--and I could be wrong. France is on its 5th Republic in that time. Germany wasn't "Germany" until 1870, Italy wasn't "Italy" until 1866.

Donald Trump and the ReTrumplicans are burning down our government, ending a continual run since George Washington was elected in 1788.
ANY Democrat is about continuing that run. Anything they fuck up can be fixed.
Trump means the end of the Constitution.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 10:48 pm The United States is one of the oldest continual governments in the world. I believe only the UK and Switzerland have had the same government longer--and I could be wrong. France is on its 5th Republic in that time. Germany wasn't "Germany" until 1870, Italy wasn't "Italy" until 1866.

Donald Trump and the ReTrumplicans are burning down our government, ending a continual run since George Washington was elected in 1788.
ANY Democrat is about continuing that run. Anything they fuck up can be fixed.
Trump means the end of the Constitution.
That is my fear.

Though 8 years of Trump/Bolton/Barr/Mnuchin/DeVos/Pence might not be irreparable, I cannot imagine how many people will suffer and die under such a regime.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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As the Democratic presidential candidates descend on California this weekend for the state party convention, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is pivoting off his fundraising success in the state to flex some organizational muscle.

The Sanders campaign is uniquely positioned to compete in California because of the cash it has accumulated through small-dollar donors. It also built an immense grassroots network in the state during his 2016 run, and has kept it mobilized and politically engaged since then. About 400,000 Californians have donated to the campaign, volunteered for it, or hosted an organizing event so far.

Sanders’ aides have been arguing for months that they are better equipped than their rivals to confront the state’s costly media markets, balkanized politics and vast geography.

Early Friday morning, the campaign revealed its first big hires in the state, a team of eight operatives who will be charged with creating regional campaign infrastructure in California and allowed to function with a large degree of autonomy.

“We are building a talented and diverse team in the Golden State that understands people power is the key to our success here,” said Faiz Shakir, the campaign manager.

There are some notable names on the staff roster. The Sanders operation in the Bay Area will be run by Jane Kim, the civil rights and economic justice activist who served two terms on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors and mounted an unsuccessful mayoral bid. Kim, the daughter of South Korean immigrants, was also president of the school board.

The California political director will be Susie Shannon, an anti-poverty activist who was a driving force behind sweeping changes to the way California confronts homelessness. A 2016 law she championed behind the scenes pushes the state to move homeless Californians struggling with drug addiction into permanent housing as part of their path to recovery. Shannon was the first Sanders delegate from California on the Democratic National Committee, where she has shaken things up with her push to move the DNC in a more progressive direction.

Shelli Jackson, a campaign operative on several legislative races and an advisor to the Legislature, will be the lead statewide staffer. Regional efforts will be headed by other veteran campaign hands, including Daniel Andalon in the Los Angeles region and Robert Dempsey in the San Diego area. The Inland Empire and Orange County operation will be led by Samuel Sukaton. Melissa Byrne, who was Sanders’ digital director in New Hampshire in 2016, will be the volunteer coordinator in California. The campaign has also hired Sand Brim, who was a speechwriter for the state and national nurses union, to be its California policy advisor.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-po ... story.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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CDFingers wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 9:27 pm If he's the nom, he has my vote.

CDFingers
Still good.

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It seems like the GOP is running against Bernie and AOC no matter what office, district, or state - regardless.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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K9s wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 1:10 pm It seems like the GOP is running against Bernie and AOC no matter what office, district, or state - regardless.
So's the DNC. :shock:

Can't have feral cats disrupting "progress"...

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K9s wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 1:10 pm It seems like the GOP is running against Bernie and AOC no matter what office, district, or state - regardless.
The two share the word "socialist". Reeps think they can use it just like they did "communist" during the Cold War, it works with the reactionary geriatric Reeps but not so with younger voters. After all if socialism is so bad, why do Reeps still trade with China still a communist country.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Sen. Bernie Sanders in an interview Tuesday slammed mega-retailer Walmart’s resistance to raising its workers minimum wage to $15 per hour as “grotesque” and “absurd.” Sanders made his comments in an exclusive interview with USA TODAY on the eve of Walmart’s annual shareholders meeting. The Democratic presidential candidate was invited to speak there as a proxy for the Walmart workers’ right group United for Respect. “When you have a situation where the wealthiest family in America, which is the Walton family of Walmart, has $174 billion in wealth, it is really absurd and unacceptable that they are paying their workers starvation wages,” Sanders told USA TODAY before heading to Arkansas for the meeting.

United for Respect is pushing for a resolution to hike Walmart's minimum wage to $15 per hour, add a worker representative to the Board of Directors, and other measures to help workers. The group’s resolution seems unlikely to pass, but Sanders is hoping the moment will begin to build pressure on Walmart to “do the right thing.” His campaign on Tuesday used its social media accounts to highlight the financial struggle and working conditions for some of Walmart’s workers. Disney last year announced it would raise its minimum wage from $11 in annual $1 increments, culminating with a minimum $15 per hour pay in October 2021. Amazon in November raised its minimum wage, which was below $11 per hour for temporary warehouse workers in some regions, to $15. The push for a $15 minimum wage has gained momentum during the current campaign.

The entire Democratic presidential field has endorsed raising the federal minimum wage, which currently sits at $7.25 per hour, to $15. California, Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York, as well as the District of Columbia, all have passed laws requiring a $15 minimum wage be in place by 2025 or earlier.

Other big retailers, such as Costco and Target, have also recently begun hiking their hourly pay amidst a years-long ongoing push by unions and worker activist to raise minimum wage. But Walmart, with about 1.5 million employees, has resisted. Sanders took a direct shots Tuesday at the company’s founding family, the Walton’s, and CEO Doug McMillion, who was paid $24 million last year. “The American people are very tired of grotesque levels of income inequality,” Sanders said. “You have a situation where the CEO – forget the Walton family – of Walmart makes about 1,000 times the average worker. And really that’s not what America should be about.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 345549001/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Sen. Bernie Sanders will announce a plan on Monday to erase the country’s $1.6 trillion outstanding student loan tab, intensifying the higher education policy debate in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary. The Democratic presidential candidate’s legislation will release all 45 million Americans from their student debt and be paid for with a new tax on Wall Street transactions.

The proposal goes further than fellow Democratic candidate Elizabeth Warren’s plan, which caps student debt forgiveness at $50,000 and offers no relief to borrowers who earn more than $250,000. Outstanding education debt in the U.S. has eclipsed credit card and auto debt. The average college graduate leaves school $30,000 in the red today, up from $10,000 in the 1990s, and 28% of student loan borrowers are in delinquency or default.

Sanders’ plan would also make two- and four-year public colleges and universities tuition- and debt-free. “This is truly a revolutionary proposal,” Sanders told The Washington Post. “In a generation hard hit by the Wall Street crash of 2008, it forgives all student debt and ends the absurdity of sentencing an entire generation to a lifetime of debt for the ‘crime’ of getting a college education.”Sanders will introduce the legislation with Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., and Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., the co-chairwomen of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

The plan reportedly would be paid for by a new tax on financial transactions, including a 0.5 percent tax on stock transactions and a 0.1 percent tax on bonds.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/24/bernie- ... -debt.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Yeah! A real proposal that isn't about banning guns!

Selfishly, as a father of an almost 16 year old, I love the idea. Not selfishly, the entire country benefits by having the college bound come out with an education and without what amounts to a mortgage worth of dept and no place to live. Do we wish to advance as a species? Then we need education. I would also welcome the same for trade schools.

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I applaud his proposal in theory but it seems as though he's trying to engage in one upsmanship against Warren to get votes. And we all know that college would not be free and would be subsidized with more taxation. I also fail to see how making college free would make any meaningful difference when it comes to jobs and the economy. College is useless unless you're guaranteed to get a well paying job afterwards. I'd definitely push for vocational trades over 4 yr universities

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As much as I like Bernie (voted for him last go-around), his stance on gun rights has slipped badly in the last couple of years. I'm fearful that Bloomberg cash has caught his attention.

Unless he gets a more gun-friendly agenda on his site, I probably won't be going for him this time, even though I just donated. Other than gun rights, I agree with him on just about everything else, but I'm sick of those rights being threatened over and over by people with a huge disconnect.

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I think I've gotten about 10 emails and two text messages this weekend asking me to give money to the campaign.

Hey, Bernie?

I like you, and all, but that's a little excessive.
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