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Okay here is something that I've been thinking about...

#1 Post by Pfletch83 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:45 pm

Federal introduced the Flite-control wad for their Buckshot loads (which increases the effective range from cylinder choke barrels) a few years back. Winchester a year later brought out what they call Shot-lok resin to increase effective range for Turkey loads.

Now what about combining both the flite control wadding and the shot-lok resin for both game loads as well as defensive ammo?

Have I gone completely around the bend or does that sound like a pretty good idea?

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#2 Post by Marlene » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:25 am

At some point, it becomes indistinguishable from a wax slug.
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#3 Post by Pfletch83 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:20 am

But it would be much safer to use in either a pump or semi-auto.

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#4 Post by Marlene » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:22 am

How so?

And are you thinking of an effect any different from a frangible slug?
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#5 Post by Pfletch83 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:14 pm

Marlene wrote:How so?

And are you thinking of an effect any different from a frangible slug?

The Shot-lok resin actually breaks up upon firing and decreases shot deformation the flite control wad should help keep the pattern flying in a tighter pattern. It isn't really a frangible slug. But it should in theory further increase the effective range of a cylinder choke shotgun and buckshot loads.

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#6 Post by Inquisitor » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:07 pm

What problem are we solving? Seriously, not sure why I would need distance out of HD shotgun?

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#7 Post by Pfletch83 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:37 am

Inquisitor wrote:What problem are we solving? Seriously, not sure why I would need distance out of HD shotgun?



I just think it would be interesting and might further extend the useful range of buckshot loads.

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#8 Post by Marlene » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:09 am

At some point, the low velocity ballistics put a limit on the value of range extending strategies around pattern control. There isn't really a gap to be filled by this that a slug doesn't cover, as I see it.
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#9 Post by dandad » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:31 pm

Only thing i might see with it is not distance, but restricting scatter for indoor Self defence purposes

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#10 Post by Marlene » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:29 pm

Slugs tend not to scatter.
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#11 Post by Elmo » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:06 am

I too don't understand the problem we're trying to solve.

Is over-scatter really a problem in HD situations? I would think the opposite. That's why HD shotguns usually have a cylinder choke or equivalent, to scatter as wide and as quickly as possible, assuming short range engagement.
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#12 Post by Pfletch83 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:58 am

It was more of a "What if" thought experiment. But if in a survival situation where you have a shotgun that lacks a choke and have very few slugs/having to engage moving targets that would otherwise be outside of standard buckshot range, having such loads on hand could be a great advantage.

It's the only way I can see of giving the standard defensive (fixed cylinder choked) shotgun owner more to work with.

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#13 Post by TheViking » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:39 am

I have my home defense shotgun (20" cylinder bore pump) loaded with Hornady Critical Defense 00s. They have a cup for controlled flight and don't spread more than 4-6" at 10 yards. If that isn't tight enough, buy more slugs. Keep it simple.
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#14 Post by Pfletch83 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:15 pm

I honestly think it would be a great load to have on hand.

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