I dont post often, and in fact other than my intro this is probably the first thread I've started. I put this out on Arf.com and realized that I hadn't posted here yet. And since the Shotgun thread forum seems kind of quiet...
Here is my recently finished A5 SBS. I also converted it to a 2 piece lifter.
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2I almost picked up an as-is semi 12g a while back with a whippet on my mind. What length is the barrel?
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4Nice score. That's a fine bit of shotgun you've got there.
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5Nifty!!
What's the LOP? Seems short. What's the capacity? 4+1?
I love the pistol grip...looks wicked, in a victorian way.
What's the LOP? Seems short. What's the capacity? 4+1?
I love the pistol grip...looks wicked, in a victorian way.
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6Beautiful. I love the A5, but I know if I ever got one it would have me going down the SBS road.
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8Nice A5.
This is just my opinion, yours may vary and is no less valid.
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"I will never claim to be an expert, and it has been my experience that self proclaimed experts are usually self proclaimed."
-Me-
I must proof read more
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9Whippet good!
(Ah, come on, somebody had to say it!)
[youtu_be]http://youtu.be/j_QLzthSkfM[/youtu_be]
(Ah, come on, somebody had to say it!)
[youtu_be]http://youtu.be/j_QLzthSkfM[/youtu_be]
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Re: Browning A5 Whippet
10Thanks all. I started with a $300 Gunbroker special. The barrel is about 14.25 inches. I had it done by Rose Action Sports. I wasn't sure I could cut it well enough, but was damned sure I couldn't install the new site myself. Big endorsement of Steve Rose's work - very nicely done. The original barrel was dinged up at the muzzle, so no loss there...
I whacked about 2 inches off of the end of the stock but then mounted a grind to fit Pachmayr pad so the LOP is about 13ish inches. In truth a hair short for me , but doable in the "Clyde Barrow" configuration. It is a very handy length. The stock was split around the pistol grip knob and the wood had been chewed up between the tang and recoil tube. Given that, I didnt feel bad about cutting it shorter. I've expoxied it and hope it holds but who knows. May have to shell out for replacements at some point.
I used a Nordic Comp MXT plug cap for the mag tube cap, taking a chance that it would give enough space in the tube for another round and lucked out. It holds 1+5 2 3/4 shells. I wanted to use a QD type sling and the MXT has a QD cup in the end. I counter sunk another QD cup in the stock to make that work. Upgraded to a 2 piece lifter, but kept the old trigger group with suicide safety.
All in all, a lot of fun and a great learning experience. I like the "Steampunk Tactical Meets End of The World" look to it.
$300 for donor
$200 for stamp
$130 for barrel work
$100 ish for lifter parts
$25 for pad
Priceless = Range time
I whacked about 2 inches off of the end of the stock but then mounted a grind to fit Pachmayr pad so the LOP is about 13ish inches. In truth a hair short for me , but doable in the "Clyde Barrow" configuration. It is a very handy length. The stock was split around the pistol grip knob and the wood had been chewed up between the tang and recoil tube. Given that, I didnt feel bad about cutting it shorter. I've expoxied it and hope it holds but who knows. May have to shell out for replacements at some point.
I used a Nordic Comp MXT plug cap for the mag tube cap, taking a chance that it would give enough space in the tube for another round and lucked out. It holds 1+5 2 3/4 shells. I wanted to use a QD type sling and the MXT has a QD cup in the end. I counter sunk another QD cup in the stock to make that work. Upgraded to a 2 piece lifter, but kept the old trigger group with suicide safety.
All in all, a lot of fun and a great learning experience. I like the "Steampunk Tactical Meets End of The World" look to it.
$300 for donor
$200 for stamp
$130 for barrel work
$100 ish for lifter parts
$25 for pad
Priceless = Range time
Re: Browning A5 Whippet
11Do you know about the 18" min barrel length to keep it out of a special bracket?
After reading I see you do.
After reading I see you do.
Puffing up is no substitute for smarts but it's a common home remedy
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12Whippet: good.
And expensive.
CDFingers
And expensive.
CDFingers
Crazy cat peekin' through a lace bandana
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
like a one-eyed Cheshire, like a diamond-eyed Jack
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13Yes...the decision to pursue it wasn't rooted in, shall we say, sound fiscal policy. But then this is a hobby and the ROI isnt calculated in $$. I did enjoy the tinkering.
The mistake I made was pursuing an NFA trust. After you fund that, you are compelled to pursue NFA weapons to justify it.
The mistake I made was pursuing an NFA trust. After you fund that, you are compelled to pursue NFA weapons to justify it.
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14Watch out! Next thing you know you'll be adding shoulder stocks to pistols...DamnYankee wrote:Yes...the decision to pursue it wasn't rooted in, shall we say, sound fiscal policy. But then this is a hobby and the ROI isnt calculated in $$. I did enjoy the tinkering.
The mistake I made was pursuing an NFA trust. After you fund that, you are compelled to pursue NFA weapons to justify it.
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15A SBR Draco pistol was what got me started on the trust thing in the first place. Your comment evokes this thought, which is entirely too provacativerascally wrote:Watch out! Next thing you know you'll be adding shoulder stocks to pistols...DamnYankee wrote:Yes...the decision to pursue it wasn't rooted in, shall we say, sound fiscal policy. But then this is a hobby and the ROI isnt calculated in $$. I did enjoy the tinkering.
The mistake I made was pursuing an NFA trust. After you fund that, you are compelled to pursue NFA weapons to justify it.
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16I can safely say that I'll be sorely disappointed in you if that Draco or something similar doesn't find it's way into your trust. Not that I'm enabling or anything.
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17I've never seen a shotgun with this moving barrel design before.
Puffing up is no substitute for smarts but it's a common home remedy
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18The Draco was #1, the A5 was #2. #3, currently in progress, is an 870 SBS with 11.5 in barrel.shinzen wrote:I can safely say that I'll be sorely disappointed in you if that Draco or something similar doesn't find it's way into your trust. Not that I'm enabling or anything.
I did all of that withOUT encouragement. I dont even want to THINK about where things would be if I had joined this forum earlier!!
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19I was imaging a hack saw to one of my semi autos and wondered how the shortened barrel affects the semi auto portion of the gun. Are adjustments required to make up for what I assume is lost back pressure?
Puffing up is no substitute for smarts but it's a common home remedy
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20For a purely mechanical/spring system like the A5 I think its a non-issue, but I'm sure for any of the gas recoil systems it is a definite consideration. OTOH there are lots of examples of successfully shortened gas semi's out on the web and Remington sells their 11-87 as a police model with a 14 inch barrel. So clearly doable. I'm sure gas ports have to be altered, etc.
I have a Mossberg 930 I bought from Walmart with 18 inch barrel and integrated breacher style brake. I would THINK the gas ports would have been sized to account for the brake. Removing it would shorten the barrel by 3-4 inches but assume would have negligible effect on pressure.
Not sure but think I might be trying to talk myself into another project...
I have a Mossberg 930 I bought from Walmart with 18 inch barrel and integrated breacher style brake. I would THINK the gas ports would have been sized to account for the brake. Removing it would shorten the barrel by 3-4 inches but assume would have negligible effect on pressure.
Not sure but think I might be trying to talk myself into another project...
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21What I was pondering was cutting a Baikal MP153. I have one like in the vid except with wood. My other option is to add the extension like this because I can't leave anything alone.
Puffing up is no substitute for smarts but it's a common home remedy
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22Me neither.because I can't leave anything alone.
I'm sure if I shot 3 Gun or even hunted with a shotgun I would see/understand the value of an extended mag as shown in the pic. Since I don't, my shotgun aesthetic leans towards shorter, handier lengths vs longer.
You could always buy a second barrel...
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23Nice GAT Clyde. Now you just need a pre-war .38 Super go to along with it. VERY cool.DamnYankee wrote:I dont post often, and in fact other than my intro this is probably the first thread I've started. I put this out on Arf.com and realized that I hadn't posted here yet. And since the Shotgun thread forum seems kind of quiet...
Here is my recently finished A5 SBS. I also converted it to a 2 piece lifter.
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