Re: Elizabeth Warren 2020
51^^^ So, eviscerate the 2A. Registered firearms only for those deemed by .gov to be ok. I love being treated like a criminal for exercising my rights. When do we start eviscerating the rest of them?
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Not gonna happen.DispositionMatrix wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:28 pm Protecting Our Communities from Gun Violence
It's basically a ban-all-the-things bullet list encompassing everything championed by disarmament enthusiasts, including the following:
- Enact UBCs.
- Impose multiple-purchase reporting.
- Raise the minimum purchase age.
- Go after Wells Fargo.
- End what firearm prohibitionists call the "boyfriend loophole."
- Ban 3D-printed firearms.
- Ban 80% receivers.
- Ban pistol braces.
- Impose a federal licensing system.
- Close what firearm prohibitionists call the "Charleston loophole."
- Impose 30% tax on firearms.
- Impose 50% tax on ammunition.
- Restrict firearm purchases to on per month.
- Ban"assault weapons" by prohibiting new manufacturing and sales and requiring registering existing semi-autos under the NFA, complete with firearm surrender and penalties for non-compliance.
- Ban standard-capacity mags.
- Ban suppressors.
- Ban trigger cranks.
- Enact ERPOs.
- Ban anyone convicted of a hate crime from owning a firearm.
- Expand the GFSZA to cover colleges and to apply to concealed carriers.
- Repeal the PLCAA.
- Make firearm manufacturers strictly liable for compensatory damages committed by criminals and make their CEOs criminally liable.
- Impose regulation of the firearms industry by the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
As they converged this past weekend in Iowa — a state with a robust gun culture and an affinity for the Republican president — the stinging case for gun control laid out by White House hopefuls had little in common with past appeals for additional regulation and much to do with the implications of Trump’s role in stoking violent white nationalism.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/ ... cy-1458135In Iowa, where Trump beat Hillary Clinton by more than 9 percentage points in 2016, the Republican-controlled Legislature this year passed a resolution seeking to add pro-gun language to the state constitution.
Some Democrats in early primary states worry about the risks of pushing the subject too hard. “There’s a pretty heavy gun culture out here in Iowa, even among Democrats,” said Tom Courtney, a former Iowa state senator now co-chairman of the Des Moines County Democrats.
He said it’s “good politics to be talking about the instantaneous background checks and all that.” However, he feared a movement within the Democratic Party to push even further left after the Texas and Ohio shootings, including with a discussion of mandatory buy-back programs, could be harmful to the eventual nominee. In Iowa, he said, “That’s crazy talk.”
I don't think they are capitulating. I think the national GOP is following Trump over a cliff.senorgrand wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:46 am Dems are stepping over themselves on the issue, while republicans are signalling capitulation. The NRA is in disarray. Not a good time for gun owners.
As a Californian living under 9th Circuit rule, I have a low level of confidence in this statement.K9s wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:45 pm our right-wing courts will block an AWB this time no matter what happens.
Yup. Successful challenge of an AWB does us no good if we've all expired by the time the case prevails...senorgrand wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:22 pm Also, as Californian gun owners know, the wheels of justice grind slowly.
Or two.
Is that two revolvers and a lever action? Then I'm set twice . S&W 686plus 3 in and 6 inch Henry Big Boy steel all in 357 magnum. Ruger alaskan and Super Redhawk along with Henry Big Boy Brass Alloy in 44 magnum.
I need another lever gun, I guess.TrueTexan wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:08 pmIs that two revolvers and a lever action? Then I'm set twice . S&W 686plus 3 in and 6 inch Henry Big Boy steel all in 357 magnum. Ruger alaskan and Super Redhawk along with Henry Big Boy Brass Alloy in 44 magnum.
On Thursday Democrat presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren tweeted a video clip in which she pledged the executive action in every corner for gun control. Warren said 40,000 Americans died last year from gun violence. Warren's claim is actually a loose reference to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention numbers for 2017. The most recent numbers which show 39,773 people died and firearm related death however Warren did not mention that nearly two-thirds of those deaths were due to suicide not gun violence. In fact the surge in the gun deaths was the result of a surge in suicides and the Chicago Tribune Steven Chapman notes that the increase was actually greater for the non firearm suicide rate than for the firearm suicide rate.
But Warren presented that all is due to gun violence before pledging to more gun control which included a promise to reduce the number of gun violence deaths by 80 percent. She said we will make changes until we all figure out what works and then we'll make some more changes.
Warren added I will take executive action in every corner with the Department of Justice with ATF to move as much as I can. She then noted that Congress will have a role too but she suggested they are frozen in place because the gun industry controls Washington. She described such influence as corruption and said real change meaningful change starts with breaking up the corruption in Washington, breaking the NRA awr Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart news and the writer / curator of down newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment. Also for Breitbart news he is the political analyst where armed American radio follow him on Twitter.
TrueTexan said:
This is why I’m looking to buy a Ruger Mini-14 and sell my Yugoslav AKM underfolder.
Another administration run by Executive Orders within a fortress of constant lawsuits. I like Warren but she appeals to a limited number of voters as the CNN poll pointed out and that's not enough to get elected president.Warren added I will take executive action in every corner with the Department of Justice with ATF to move as much as I can.
I worry about the exact same thing.highdesert said:
I like Warren but she appeals to a limited number of voters as the CNN poll pointed out ...
McConnell courts will stop confiscation and it is just a stupid idea at this time. Too many nuts will take it as a sign of the end times or whatever. Buybacks would cost a lot of money that should go to free health clinics and free solar panels for the people.featureless wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:45 am Using an executive order to restrict a constitutional right seems... contrary to their purpose.
Assault weapon buybacks/confiscation is my line in the sand. I really like many of her other proposals. It's unfortunate she's taken this path. She's smart enough to know better.
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