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Yeah. On me, they look GOOD!
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Bucolic wrote:My clock stopped around 1978.
I seriously have a hard time believing anyone on the internet is old. I don't know why.

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The TP9SF model is an excellent gun. Trigger is better out of the box than my polished trigger G17. This model doesn’t have the wonky decocker so it’s always ready to go, like a Glock. Balances well, has a match-grade barrel, and is very affordable.

I know nothing of being a hipster so I decided to write about the gun... not hip enough.

Oh, and being “old” is a state of mind. We can avoid that by remaining mentally limber.

And having sex. Lots of sexy-time.
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DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:07 pm
Bucolic wrote: nor a flannel wardrobe.
You're doing yourself a disservice. Flannel shirts are peak fashion
Not in 100+ degree days in Texas. Not even in Austin.
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DMac wrote:
Bucolic wrote:My clock stopped around 1978.
I seriously have a hard time believing anyone on the internet is old. I don't know why.
Shit, I’m so old that I was on the internet before they let AOL In.
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TrueTexan wrote:
DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:07 pm
Bucolic wrote: nor a flannel wardrobe.
You're doing yourself a disservice. Flannel shirts are peak fashion
Not in 100+ degree days in Texas. Not even in Austin.
Being hot is a state of mind

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Bucolic wrote:
DMac wrote:
Bucolic wrote:My clock stopped around 1978.
I seriously have a hard time believing anyone on the internet is old. I don't know why.
Shit, I’m so old that I was on the internet before they let AOL In.
So you remember when pop-up blockers were a thing?

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Bisbee wrote:The TP9SF model is an excellent gun. Trigger is better out of the box than my polished trigger G17. This model doesn’t have the wonky decocker so it’s always ready to go, like a Glock. Balances well, has a match-grade barrel, and is very affordable.

I know nothing of being a hipster so I decided to write about the gun... not hip enough.

Oh, and being “old” is a state of mind. We can avoid that by remaining mentally limber.

And having sex. Lots of sexy-time.
What don't you like about Glock's decocker, or is it decockers in general?

Edit: I misread. So what don't you like about decockers?
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No decocker on a Glock.

By the way, congrats on the purchase!

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featureless wrote:No decocker on a Glock.

By the way, congrats on the purchase!
I misread. Do people not like decockers?


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Bucolic wrote:
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Yeah. On me, they look GOOD!
On me, they LOOKED good--40 years ago. Now? NFW
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DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:55 pm
Bucolic wrote:My clock stopped around 1978.
I seriously have a hard time believing anyone on the internet is old. I don't know why.
Let me guess.... you are young and don't talk to many people over 50? Until now, that is?

Gun forums have a lot of people over 50.
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DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:32 pm
featureless wrote:No decocker on a Glock.

By the way, congrats on the purchase!
I misread. Do people not like decockers?
Depends. Before I could carry, I preferred a striker with no saftey or decocker. Now that I have a CCW, the idea of a chambered gun with a lightish trigger has pushed me back to a DA\SA platform, thus the new CZs. One has a decocker for carry. One has a saftey for home because California won't let me have the decocker version. :)

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K9s wrote:
DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:55 pm
Bucolic wrote:My clock stopped around 1978.
I seriously have a hard time believing anyone on the internet is old. I don't know why.
Let me guess.... you are young and don't talk to many people over 50? Until now, that is?

Gun forums have a lot of people over 50.
I thought people over 50 online were an illusion created by George Soros to further Best Buy's Geek Squad cartel strangle hold on the tech support market.

I also don't have Facebook or deal with social media much, so everyone online is a 25 year old white guy who wears polos in my mind.

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just because i'm over 50/60/65 doesn't mean i can't act immature. i think of retirement as a chance to be a kid again, wear shorts and t-shirts and flip-flops everywhere, take naps whenever i feel like it, don't work, don't go to school. mash lightly (no touch!) on the pretty girls. my toys are more expensive lately. responsibility is for suckers and losers. :D
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wear shorts and t-shirts and flip-flops everywhere, take naps whenever i feel like it,
You just described workers at Facebook and Google. There are real nap rooms, and people do wear shorts, t-shirts and flip-flops.
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featureless wrote:
DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:32 pm
featureless wrote:No decocker on a Glock.

By the way, congrats on the purchase!
I misread. Do people not like decockers?
because California won't let me have the decocker version. :)
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Decockers are fine. But it depends on the manufacturer’s design intent.

Specifically on the Canik TP9-SA, in copying the Walther design, they included the decocker but on a Single Action striker pistol. Who the hell does that? So if you load a round and decocked the gun to holster and carry safely, every time you draw the gun you have to rack the slide again! Pretty useless for a carry pistol, unless you basically practice draw-and-rack Israeli style. I guess anything is possible.

The one you got is the subsequent design, where Canik listened to the consumer reviews and did away with the decocker altogether.
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Bisbee wrote: Pretty useless for a carry pistol, unless you basically practice draw-and-rack Israeli style. I guess anything is possible.
What's the deal with that? I saw some Israeli military surplus pistols in this config. Kinda confused me.

In the good ole USMC we carried the Beretta M9, DA/SA and made sense because we trained with the external hammer you could press on when leg holstering for extra safety. Since us jarheads need all the extra safety we can get.

But the Israeli style baffles me. The pistol was always my backup weapon when transporting certain equipment, so if you ever needed it that means someone got the drop on you close. Couldn't imagine having to rack it to fire.


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I am definitely not a 25 y/o white guy in a polo shirt
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DMac wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:19 pm
Bucolic wrote:
DMac wrote:
Bucolic wrote:My clock stopped around 1978.
I seriously have a hard time believing anyone on the internet is old. I don't know why.
Shit, I’m so old that I was on the internet before they let AOL In.
So you remember when pop-up blockers were a thing?
I'm so old I remember when the "internet" was the Fido-net, and eMail could take as long to get across the country as snail-mail!
I remember when my HS "computer" was a dial-up acoustic-coupler teletype that did everything in BASIC, and you recorded programs on a paper tape--and both Gates and Jobs were also in HS.
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lurker wrote:just because i'm over 50/60/65 doesn't mean i can't act immature. i think of retirement as a chance to be a kid again, wear shorts and t-shirts and flip-flops everywhere, take naps whenever i feel like it, don't work, don't go to school. mash lightly (no touch!) on the pretty girls. my toys are more expensive lately. responsibility is for suckers and losers. :D
Your retirement plan is a lot like mine.


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Bucolic wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:26 pm
lurker wrote:just because i'm over 50/60/65 doesn't mean i can't act immature. i think of retirement as a chance to be a kid again, wear shorts and t-shirts and flip-flops everywhere, take naps whenever i feel like it, don't work, don't go to school. mash lightly (no touch!) on the pretty girls. my toys are more expensive lately. responsibility is for suckers and losers. :D
Your retirement plan is a lot like mine.
i'm actually chafing a bit at the lack of structure. i've always been somewhat serendipitous, plans are for other people, but now i've all of this time on my hands, and i need a bit of organization. those bucket list items? pick one, work up to it, knock it out, check it off. next!

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In part that’s why I continue to teach. It gives me a little structure and it affords me contact with the students and physics colleagues while not overtaxing my brain. It’s all good. For now.
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I'm old enough to remember having a dialup shell account that had to be run through a terminal program to access the internet on a UNIX machine. The ISP was the only one in the DFW area that provided that access to us mere mortals. the good old days of Gopher Space, FIDONet, and heaven forbid who can forget USENET.

I love the decocker on my Sig 227 DA/SA Don't have to worry about a safety. First round trigger pull is heavy as hell, but the rest are a SRT and light as can be. The first round fired is like using a DA/SA revolver.

I just can't wrap my mind around the "Trigger Safety" of the Glocks. Their safety is why we develop the term Glock Leg. The Glock trigger safety kinda reminds me of a baby boy's pecker. It has to be covered at all times because it is liable to go off at anytime it touches anything.
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