Re: New member and gun owner
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Last edited by lurker on Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
i'm retired. what's your excuse?
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I’ve learned not to engage in an extend discussion. I’ve learned no matter how well reasoned an argument if it goes against their indoctrination it’s wasted effort. I don’t care to have them around, but if the club admins tolerate their presence so be it. I believe I’ve learned about as much as I want from them. I’ll just get popcorn and watch y’all debate against a brick wall. It’s on par with watching paint dry.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:59 pm i don't mind if hesheit's here. we can disagree and still learn from each other, sometimes we learn what not to do.
I don't think there's anything to learn from racist bloomberg talking points, but I don't disagree that we can co-exist. I also understand the viewpoint that there's no space for anti-gun sentiments from people who aren't willing to learn that their indoctrination by antis has been damaging for the 2A and the 1A as well.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:59 pm i don't mind if hesheit's here. we can disagree and still learn from each other, sometimes we learn what not to do.
A minor point, this is not the “democratic (party) gun club”, it’s the “Liberal Gun Club”. His positions were not minor differences. They were and are opposite of the stated positions of this organization.tonguengroover wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 2:38 pm I read that other thread. wow
My question is why would people here want to ban a person who is a democrat, just bought a gun and has a little different outlook on gun ownership and is a liberal at heart?
There's millions of them out there. Will you ban them all because they do not agree with you totally?
I understand this forum has a "click" club mentality where some people want it to stay small and comphy. But the club should grow and welcome members even if they do want more gun control than the clubs stance regarding gun legislation. Otherwise it sounds almost like some other radical right wing gun forum.
Bravo!NegativeApproach wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 2:54 pmI don't think there's anything to learn from racist bloomberg talking points, but I don't disagree that we can co-exist. I also understand the viewpoint that there's no space for anti-gun sentiments from people who aren't willing to learn that their indoctrination by antis has been damaging for the 2A and the 1A as well.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:59 pm i don't mind if hesheit's here. we can disagree and still learn from each other, sometimes we learn what not to do.
The fact that from time to time you rationally and objectively reconsider your position proves you do belong here, where Kool-Aid is not served.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm no one is forced to be here against their will.
about once a month or two i think "i don't belong here, i ought to leave." but then i remember there's a community here, with a shared consensus about root cause mitigation instead of ill-conceived restriction of a constitutional right. i'm supposed to be an adult, it's up to me to decide if i stay here as long as i don't break the rules.
wings wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 7:29 am Nice welcome thread hijack, lads. Although I do appreciate tonguengroover's input here.
This is the Liberal Gun Club, not the Left-Wing Shall-Not-Be-Infringed Club.
We all have our preferences in firearms, our opinions about what's reasonable & safe and what isn't. The manifesto we all agreed to, and it's a good one, is that root causes should come first. I've never seen evidence to back the notion that an armed society is a polite one, but I'd love to see us exemplify it better.
People are free to come and go. Agree with lurker’s points, I stay because of the positions stated by the LGC and I really do like most of y’all even the ones I sometimes disagree mildly with. If this was a club dedicated to supporting the democratic party platform, I wouldn’t be here. I know it’s not.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm no one is forced to be here against their will.
about once a month or two i think "i don't belong here, i ought to leave." but then i remember there's a community here, with a shared consensus about root cause mitigation instead of ill-conceived restriction of a constitutional right. i'm supposed to be an adult, it's up to me to decide if i stay here as long as i don't break the rules.
Raspberry! UGH!!!lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 pm what? no kool-aid? but i like kool-aid! ok, except maybe grape, bleah.
Welcome from Bethesda!!Jwc wrote:
I don’t know yet how I feel about all the issues surrounding the gun control debate, but since I live in Maryland, I do feel that the 10 cartridge magazine limit is not effective, and that there are root causes that need to be addressed to reduce gun violence.
Looking forward to being part of the community.
You and I disagree frequently, sometimes vehemently. That's what free discussion is all about.sikacz wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 8:37 amPeople are free to come and go. Agree with lurker’s points, I stay because of the positions stated by the LGC and I really do like most of y’all even the ones I sometimes disagree mildly with. If this was a club dedicated to supporting the democratic party platform, I wouldn’t be here. I know it’s not.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm no one is forced to be here against their will.
about once a month or two i think "i don't belong here, i ought to leave." but then i remember there's a community here, with a shared consensus about root cause mitigation instead of ill-conceived restriction of a constitutional right. i'm supposed to be an adult, it's up to me to decide if i stay here as long as i don't break the rules.
To the OP, welcome again. (Since he joined mid last year and just posted an intro recently I think he knows by now what this place is about.)
Yes, but with you there is a point to discuss. There is little point in debating or discussing anything when the other person’s viewpoint is obviously fixed and totally anti any gun other than a flintlock (slight exaggeration, black powder weapons).YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:26 pmYou and I disagree frequently, sometimes vehemently. That's what free discussion is all about.sikacz wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 8:37 amPeople are free to come and go. Agree with lurker’s points, I stay because of the positions stated by the LGC and I really do like most of y’all even the ones I sometimes disagree mildly with. If this was a club dedicated to supporting the democratic party platform, I wouldn’t be here. I know it’s not.lurker wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm no one is forced to be here against their will.
about once a month or two i think "i don't belong here, i ought to leave." but then i remember there's a community here, with a shared consensus about root cause mitigation instead of ill-conceived restriction of a constitutional right. i'm supposed to be an adult, it's up to me to decide if i stay here as long as i don't break the rules.
To the OP, welcome again. (Since he joined mid last year and just posted an intro recently I think he knows by now what this place is about.)
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