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The way I see TOS is like an entitled frat boy who gets away with so much because of the family name. All through his (miserable) life he got special treatment and is in fact used to that. Everywhere -except now, here, in the courts. And it’s a tenuous connection to our consensual reality but the justice that we citizens all live by and rely on is what finally has TOS trapped like a bug in flypaper. The danger is always that some other bug is willing to sacrifice themselves in some ill-conceived plan to “save him” but the slow meat grinder of the courts will basically pulverize the hapless frat-boy who frankly doesn’t have the sense to know when to keep his trap shut. That is to be expected. Everything else is noise, pointing to an alternate reality, signaling an army which doesn’t actually exist. And we can all see, in the courts his antics just don’t fly.
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

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sikacz wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:36 pm
highdesert wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:16 pm The NY decision is the civil suit that Letitia James filed in NY state court. The judges decision was summary judgement on one issue, there are other issues yet to be decided. It was a sweeping ruling, but it's from a trial court in NY, there are still two state appellate courts above that will have final say and even after the NY Court of Appeals decides, it can be taken directly to SCOTUS. These are minor skirmishers, nothing is a done deal until all appeals are exhausted.

If Biden and Democrats thought that indicting Trump on numerous charges would stop him running in 2024, so far it's back fired. The perception on the other side is that this is all political payback for what he did as president and to block him from running again. Democrats and Independent that lean towards them (44%) and Republicans and Independents that lean towards them (42%) are almost equal, for every Democrat and leaner that sees Trump as a crook, there is almost exactly the same number of Republicans and learners that see him as a victim of a witch hunt. Everyone doesn't think the same way about Trump.
This is exactly why I think biden and the dems push on guns is idiotic. A consensus approach would be better, and even better without biden or harris.
Except trump's charges stem from grand juries who have determined based on EVIDENCE that trump has committed crimes..

Ya need to look at unbiased polls about what the rank and file voter thinks about President Biden's gun control proposals and not just what the GQP say about it.

How about Fox News...

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/28/fox-ne ... un-control

Besides, gun control is WAY down the list of what's important to voters...

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U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan said Wednesday she won’t recuse herself from Donald Trump’s 2020 election interference case in Washington, rejecting the former president’s claims that her past comments raise doubts about whether she can be fair. Chutkan, who was nominated to the bench by President Barack Obama and was randomly assigned to Trump’s case, said in her written decision that she sees no reason to step aside. The case, scheduled for trial in March, accuses the Republican of illegally scheming to overturn his election loss to Democrat Joe Biden. There’s a high bar for recusal, and legal experts had widely considered Trump’s request to be a long shot aimed at undermining the legitimacy of the case publicly that could only sour the relationship between the judge and the defense in court.

In seeking Chutkan’s recusal, defense lawyers cited statements she had made in two sentencing hearings of participants in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol in which they said she had appeared to suggest that Trump deserved to be prosecuted and held accountable. They said the comments suggested a bias against him that could taint the proceedings. But Chutkan vigorously objected to the those characterizations of her comments. “It bears noting that the court has never taken the position the defense ascribes to it: that former ‘President Trump should be prosecuted and imprisoned,’” Chutkan wrote. “And the defense does not cite any instance of the court ever uttering those words or anything similar.”

It’s the second time Trump has tried unsuccessfully to get a judge removed from one of the criminal cases against him. Judge Juan Manuel Merchan, who is overseeing Trump’s New York hush money criminal case, rejected similar demands that he step aside, saying he is certain of his “ability to be fair and impartial.”
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump ... 3f9888e75a
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Jim Jordan hits back at 'hostile' Fani Willis — and suggests he has authority over her

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) responded Wednesday to a note from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis that told Congress to butt out of her criminal investigation into Donald Trump.

Willis, who maintains that no federal dollars were used for the Trump investigation, says that the House Judiciary Committee doesn't have any jurisdiction over the DA's office after Jordan demanded a collection of details and evidence that tied the office to the federal government.

“Your attempt to invoke congressional authority to intrude upon and interfere with an active criminal case in Georgia is flagrantly at odds with the Constitution,” Willis wrote in a letter responding to Jordan earlier this month.

In another letter dated Wednesday, Jordan told Willis that she's only reinforcing "the Committee’s concern that your prosecutorial conduct is geared more toward advancing a political cause and your own notoriety than toward promoting the fair and just administration of the law.”

"Congress in general, and this Committee in particular, have a strong legislative interest in ensuring that popularly elected local prosecutors do not misuse their law-enforcement authority to target federal officials for political reasons,” Jordan claimed. “We can only conclude from your hostile response to the Committee’s oversight that you are actively and aggressively engaged in such a scheme.”

Willis told Jordan in her letter he has no support for intervening in her investigation, supervising the ongoing investigation or superseding Georgia's sovereignty.

Also, "you lack a basic understanding of the law," Willis told Jordan.

The House Judiciary Committee listed off Jordan's demands. The House has attempted similar efforts with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. It failed.
https://www.rawstory.com/jim-jordan-fa ... I#cxrecs_s

It is past time for Gym Jordan to hit the showers.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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TrueTexan wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:10 pm
Jim Jordan hits back at 'hostile' Fani Willis — and suggests he has authority over her

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) responded Wednesday to a note from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis that told Congress to butt out of her criminal investigation into Donald Trump.

Willis, who maintains that no federal dollars were used for the Trump investigation, says that the House Judiciary Committee doesn't have any jurisdiction over the DA's office after Jordan demanded a collection of details and evidence that tied the office to the federal government.

“Your attempt to invoke congressional authority to intrude upon and interfere with an active criminal case in Georgia is flagrantly at odds with the Constitution,” Willis wrote in a letter responding to Jordan earlier this month.

In another letter dated Wednesday, Jordan told Willis that she's only reinforcing "the Committee’s concern that your prosecutorial conduct is geared more toward advancing a political cause and your own notoriety than toward promoting the fair and just administration of the law.”

"Congress in general, and this Committee in particular, have a strong legislative interest in ensuring that popularly elected local prosecutors do not misuse their law-enforcement authority to target federal officials for political reasons,” Jordan claimed. “We can only conclude from your hostile response to the Committee’s oversight that you are actively and aggressively engaged in such a scheme.”

Willis told Jordan in her letter he has no support for intervening in her investigation, supervising the ongoing investigation or superseding Georgia's sovereignty.

Also, "you lack a basic understanding of the law," Willis told Jordan.

The House Judiciary Committee listed off Jordan's demands. The House has attempted similar efforts with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. It failed.
https://www.rawstory.com/jim-jordan-fa ... I#cxrecs_s

It is past time for Gym Jordan to hit the showers.
Jim Jordan is a disgrace. To misquote Game of Thrones, "Jordan would see this country burn if it meant Trump could be the king of ashes."
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Trump and his sons will plead the Fifth in civil fraud trial: Watergate prosecutor

Former President Donald Trump and his adult sons will be facing trial for civil fraud in a matter of days — and the clear facts of the case have already been decided, with Judge Arthur Engoron finding them liable and leaving it to the court how much they owe New York State in damages.

But things could get even worse for them, argued former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman on CNN Thursday. They will have to take the Fifth on the stand to protect themselves from further legal harm — and even in so doing, they will damage themselves.

"Nick, would you be surprised if Trump or his eldest sons were called to testify?" asked anchor Jake Tapper. "Or are you expecting that?"

"Oh, I'm expecting that," said Akerman. "If i were the AG, I would pop them up on the stand almost immediately. Because I would expect on a number of these issues they're going to wind up asserting their Fifth Amendment privilege, claiming that a truthful answer would tend to incriminate them. Particularly Donald Trump, one of the issues that's left in this case is the falsification of business records. And he's already under indictment for that issue in Manhattan."

The upshot of that, Akerman continued, is that likely "all of these people are going to have to take the Fifth Amendment or get up there and lie or put themselves in legal jeopardy of being subsequently indicted."

"Keep in mind, this is a civil case," added Akerman. "It's not like a criminal case where the government can't call the defendant to the witness stand. In a civil case you can use the assertion of the Fifth Amendment privilege as an adverse inference against the person who asserts that privilege. So I would expect absolutely that the AG is going to call all of those witnesses."
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-plead-the-fifth/

Here’s a case of they be damned if they do and damned if they don’t. It is just a matter of degree, how much they are going down.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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Trump's Georgia election case will take place in state court after all

Donald Trump's Georgia RICO election case will not be taken to federal court, despite a previous filing by his attorneys that they might seek removal.

Trump's one-page filing published in September told Judge Scott McAfee: "President Trump hereby notifies the Court that he may seek removal of his prosecution to federal court under 28 USC 1442 and 1445. His written waiver of arraignment was filed on Aug. 31, 2023. To be timely, his notice of removal must be filed within 30 days of his arraignment."

Trump on Thursday decided he wouldn't make such a request.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-georgia-rico/

Gonna take a chance with a state court and a Georgia Jury.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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This explains that sound you've been hearing the last couple weeks.
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On edit, now it appears that all the banks and insurance companies he's defrauded over the years are going to sue his orange behind for damages. He he.

CDFingers
The wolf came in; I got my cards; we sat down for a game.
I cut my deck to the Queen of spades, but the cards were all the same.

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Jack Smith's order about the Glock:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... preply.pdf

A quote:
Despite his
spokesperson’s retraction, the Defendant then re-posted a video of the incident posted by one of
his followers with the caption, “MY PRESIDENT Trump just bought a Golden Glock before his
rally in South Carolina after being arrested 4 TIMES in a year.”
The defendant either purchased a gun in violation of the law and his conditions of release,
or seeks to benefit from his supporters’ mistaken belief that he did so.
CDFingers
The wolf came in; I got my cards; we sat down for a game.
I cut my deck to the Queen of spades, but the cards were all the same.

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CDFingers wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:32 pm Jack Smith's order about the Glock:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... preply.pdf

A quote:
Despite his
spokesperson’s retraction, the Defendant then re-posted a video of the incident posted by one of
his followers with the caption, “MY PRESIDENT Trump just bought a Golden Glock before his
rally in South Carolina after being arrested 4 TIMES in a year.”
The defendant either purchased a gun in violation of the law and his conditions of release,
or seeks to benefit from his supporters’ mistaken belief that he did so.
CDFingers
I'm guessing it's the second one. Trump loves duping his supporters almost as much as they loved being duped.
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Jack Smith can send ATF agents to Palmetto State Armory and check their FFL book to see if Trump bought a Glock, which is doutful. Trump is all about drama and he's running again for president, whatever order the district court judge issues about extrajudicial statements will get appealed as he'll claim it runs up against his 1A rights.

Yup one of the GA defendants pleaded guilty.
One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case in Georgia. Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors. The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on January 7, 2021. He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of the breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics ... index.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:50 pm I believe even TRYING to buy a firearm while under indictment is in and of itself yet another felony for the TOS.
The picture Glock photo op was a dog whistle to his storm troopers in their adorable caps and hats to go out and mess things up. He needs to be gagged and jailed until trial. He is a stochastic terrorist.

CDFingers
The wolf came in; I got my cards; we sat down for a game.
I cut my deck to the Queen of spades, but the cards were all the same.

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CDFingers wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:01 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:50 pm I believe even TRYING to buy a firearm while under indictment is in and of itself yet another felony for the TOS.
The picture Glock photo op was a dog whistle to his storm troopers in their adorable caps and hats to go out and mess things up. He needs to be gagged and jailed until trial. He is a stochastic terrorist.

CDFingers
quite!
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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He did not buy a gun. He does not care about guns and was lying as usual. The Uber-opportunist in him used the photo-op at a gun shop to stir-up his base to link violence to patriotism. Never once has he ever attributed work or service to patriotism… only violence.
To him a gun belongs on his bodyguard, his manservant. TOS would no more buy a gun as a broom or vacuum cleaner… He doesn’t do anything himself even defend his life. Truly, he doesn’t know how.
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

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Bisbee wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:32 am He did not buy a gun. He does not care about guns and was lying as usual. The Uber-opportunist in him used the photo-op at a gun shop to stir-up his base to link violence to patriotism. Never once has he ever attributed work or service to patriotism… only violence.
To him a gun belongs on his bodyguard, his manservant. TOS would no more buy a gun as a broom or vacuum cleaner… He doesn’t do anything himself even defend his life. Truly, he doesn’t know how.
Too bad he has federally mandated protection...

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WASHINGTON — (AP) — Attorney General Merrick Garland said in an interview that aired Sunday that he would resign if asked by President Joe Biden to take action against Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump. But he doesn't think he'll be put in that position.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/att ... VMVUFZCCI/

The more time that passes, the weaker becomes any assertion out of the orange spirochete.

CDFingers
The wolf came in; I got my cards; we sat down for a game.
I cut my deck to the Queen of spades, but the cards were all the same.

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I'm so looking forward to turd receiving a YUGE financial hickey this week in NYC court. Then spend a fortune appealing, losing or winning appeals, no difference as either will help drain his "wealth"! FDT
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