sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:01 am The games political parties play, they are very much alike. The last government shutdown was because Democrats wouldn't pass funding for Trump's border wall. Both parties play the shutdown game. To get rid of Republicans in Congress you have to get rid of those red states that think differently than blue states, that's talking civil war. In a democracy people are allowed to think differently.

Absolutely, a core component of a democracy and disingenuous of anyone to not acknowledge the failings of both parties and the tools they use. Unfortunately the shutdown game has replaced the art of compromise. Laying blame instead of working for solutions seems more advantageous to the parties.

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:24 am

sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:01 am The games political parties play, they are very much alike. The last government shutdown was because Democrats wouldn't pass funding for Trump's border wall. Both parties play the shutdown game. To get rid of Republicans in Congress you have to get rid of those red states that think differently than blue states, that's talking civil war. In a democracy people are allowed to think differently.

Absolutely, a core component of a democracy and disingenuous of anyone to not acknowledge the failings of both parties and the tools they use. Unfortunately the shutdown game has replaced the art of compromise. Laying blame instead of working for solutions seems more advantageous to the parties.

Yup, especially during an election cycle when blame and gotcha games are played by both parties. The parties differ on issues, but they have similar PACs and Super PACs to fund themselves and whore for media attention at every turn.

sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:28 am

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:24 am

sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:01 am The games political parties play, they are very much alike. The last government shutdown was because Democrats wouldn't pass funding for Trump's border wall. Both parties play the shutdown game. To get rid of Republicans in Congress you have to get rid of those red states that think differently than blue states, that's talking civil war. In a democracy people are allowed to think differently.

Absolutely, a core component of a democracy and disingenuous of anyone to not acknowledge the failings of both parties and the tools they use. Unfortunately the shutdown game has replaced the art of compromise. Laying blame instead of working for solutions seems more advantageous to the parties.

Yup, especially during an election cycle when blame and gotcha games are played by both parties. The parties differ on issues, but they have similar PACs and Super PACs to fund themselves and whore for media attention at every turn.

And now the election cycle starts the minute one ends, so no insensitive to actually work on the people’s interests.

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:34 am

sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:28 am

highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:24 am

sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

Absolutely, a core component of a democracy and disingenuous of anyone to not acknowledge the failings of both parties and the tools they use. Unfortunately the shutdown game has replaced the art of compromise. Laying blame instead of working for solutions seems more advantageous to the parties.

Yup, especially during an election cycle when blame and gotcha games are played by both parties. The parties differ on issues, but they have similar PACs and Super PACs to fund themselves and whore for media attention at every turn.

And now the election cycle starts the minute one ends, so no insensitive to actually work on the people’s interests.

Yes we're like parliamentary countries, except there elections can be called at any time when governments fall. So political parties there are ready for an election at any time. Our elections are defined by the constitution, but we're cocked and ready for the next political battle as prompted by our media with their agendas.

With the possibility of a federal government shutdown on the horizon, the Interior Department is poised to close the gates to the National Parks System, which includes the national parks, monuments, and historic sites across the country. But some state governments are prepared to step up and pay to keep their most popular sites open in the event of a shutdown.

In Utah, state leaders have committed to funding the operation of the state's five popular national parks: Zion, Bryce Canyon, Capitol Reef, Canyonlands and Arches, if Congress fails to pass a spending bill by the end of Saturday. Arizona and Colorado state leaders have said they also intend to bankroll some of their most popular national parks, including Grand Canyon National Park. "We are all in agreement that it's worth keeping the parks open," Utah Governor Spencer Cox said at a news conference. "It's so important to these shoulder communities that rely on the parks as their lifeblood, and so we are going to step up and do that again."

According to an August report by the National Parks Service, last year's visitation to Utah's national parks added 23,312 jobs and over $2.5 billion to the state's economy — much of that in adjacent communities like Springdale and Moab. With no park visitors, cash flow that is vital for those communities could dry up quickly. "It's our bread and butter for the winter, the revenue that we get in October," says Niehaus, the Moab innkeeper.

TrueTexan wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:34 am Luck would have it Congress did pass a continuing bill and Biden signed. I think if they don't pass another funding bill that the Congress Critters should have their paychecks stopped just like the other federal employees such as the military.