INVICTVS138 wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:50 pm
The twin towers and GWB set this shit show in motion.
Imagine a world where instead of invading Iraq, we actually use those resources to defeat the Taliban & AL Qaeda and kill OBL in 2003 instead of 2011? I know it’s a counter factual or the historical fiction realm, but I’ve tried to trace the thread back to the derailment.
We are a stronger & legitimate world power not fatally de-legitimized by defeat in Iraq. Maybe Putin doesn’t have the minerals to hack US elections & support a tin authoritarian like Trump. I don’t know - but to me as a political scientist the “zig” instead of “zag” was the US Invasion of Iraq. That’s on GWB. Just because Trump is reprehensible in every way - GWB wanted a war, since the one we were fighting already wasn’t good enough. He is also a complete failure as a president.
We could go further back than GWB. Lets go waaay back to 1953 when the CIA under Director Allen Dulles overthrew the popular elected government of Iran and placed the autocratic Shah in power, preventing the Iranian government nationalization of its oil and continued the British Petroleum control of the Iranian oil industry. Thus leading to the overthrow of the Shah and the Iranian Hostage crisis with Ronnie Raygun's traitorous deal with Iran that got him and his Vice President George H. W. Bush former head of the CIA elected. Donald Rumsfeld appointed to the DoD and sent to Iraq to encourage a war between Iraq and Iran. This war went on for ten years.
After peace was declared Iraq's leader President Saddam Hussein kept saber rattling and we didn't tell him to stop he invade Kuwait over oil disputes. President G.H.W. Bush and other allied countries sent armed forces into Kuwait to attack the Iraq forces. We defeated him. We left armed forces in Saudi Arabia to continue or support of the Saudi Kingdom. At the same time a few thousand miles away we had CIA supporting a group of Saudis, trying to liberate Afghanistan from Soviet Russia Occupation. This group was led by CIA trained, Osama Bin Laden.
After the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan Bin Laden looked at his home country and took exception to the Americans being stationed in the Holy land of Saudi Arabia and planned an attack on the infidels in retaliation. While in Washington George W. Bush is elected President and The Dick Cheney as Vic President. Now George W. had very little government experience at the federal level He had been Governor ofTexas and was considered a "good ole' boy". Not as smart as his dad, former President G.H.W. Bush. But the Vice President had lots of federal government expertise dating back to Nixon. Cheney during the first part of the term decided to see what he could do for his buddies in the Texas oil business. He called for a Classified Energy meeting of the major oil companies under the guise of energy independence. At this meeting the only document that has been disclosed was a map of Iraq d,ividing up the oil areas between the major oil companies. In the meantime BinLaden has been plotting an attack on NYC. Thus we had 9/11 World Trade Center Attack.
Well The Dick Cheney never to pass up a chance, Immediately blamed Iraq.and we started to use false information to bolster an attack on Iraq. The Rumors were flying. I was working in an ER and heard two doctors talking about how they heard that Saddam was hiding eleven tons of Anthrax to drop on the US and our forces couldn't find it. Now I ask the question, how big is eleven tons of Anthrax? Knowing that it's a bacteria and in its powered form it is very light weight. I was informed that the government knew what they were talking about and I shouldn't question it.
Well we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq twenty years later and still supporting the Saudi genocide in Yemen. Biden needs to reenact Obama's ban on exporting oil and natural gas from the US and push more for the Green Deal to slow down the use of the carbon based fuels.