A Defiant Netanyahu Says No One Can Halt Israel's War To Crush Hamas, Including The World Court

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Israel will pursue its war against Hamas until victory and will not be stopped by anyone, including the world court, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a defiant speech Saturday, as the fighting in Gaza approached the 100-day mark.

Netanyahu spoke after the International Court of Justice at The Hague held two days of hearings on South Africa’s allegations that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, a charge Israel has rejected as libelous and hypocritical. South Africa asked the court to order Israel to halt its blistering air and ground offensive in an interim step.

“No one will stop us, not The Hague, not the axis of evil and not anyone else,” Netanyahu said in televised remarks Saturday evening, referring to Iran and its allied militias.

The case before the world court is expected to go on for years, but a ruling on interim steps could come within weeks. Court rulings are binding but difficult to enforce. Netanyahu made clear that Israel would ignore orders to halt the fighting, potentially deepening its isolation.

Israel has been under growing international pressure to end the war, which has killed more than 23,000 Palestinians in Gaza and led to widespread suffering in the besieged enclave, but has so far been shielded by U.S. diplomatic and military support.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-g ... 1062f22daa

Well it is time to stop the diplomatic support and military aid to Israel. Also freeze the assets of Israel here in the US including the assets of AIPAC. Same time enforce the Emoluments Clause and require all congress critters and other officeholders that received funds from AIPAC or other PACS that have foreign interests as part of their support to give the money to the treasury .
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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:29 pm
Israel will pursue its war against Hamas until victory and will not be stopped by anyone, including the world court, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a defiant speech Saturday, as the fighting in Gaza approached the 100-day mark.

Netanyahu spoke after the International Court of Justice at The Hague held two days of hearings on South Africa’s allegations that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, a charge Israel has rejected as libelous and hypocritical. South Africa asked the court to order Israel to halt its blistering air and ground offensive in an interim step.

“No one will stop us, not The Hague, not the axis of evil and not anyone else,” Netanyahu said in televised remarks Saturday evening, referring to Iran and its allied militias.

The case before the world court is expected to go on for years, but a ruling on interim steps could come within weeks. Court rulings are binding but difficult to enforce. Netanyahu made clear that Israel would ignore orders to halt the fighting, potentially deepening its isolation.

Israel has been under growing international pressure to end the war, which has killed more than 23,000 Palestinians in Gaza and led to widespread suffering in the besieged enclave, but has so far been shielded by U.S. diplomatic and military support.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-g ... 1062f22daa

Well it is time to stop the diplomatic support and military aid to Israel. Also freeze the assets of Israel here in the US including the assets of AIPAC. Same time enforce the Emoluments Clause and require all congress critters and other officeholders that received funds from AIPAC or other PACS that have foreign interests as part of their support to give the money to the treasury .
Would be the right thing to do. I doubt our government will do the right thing. It’s blind when it comes to Israel.
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Netanyahu Says He Opposes Palestinian State In Any Postwar Scenario

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Thursday he has told the United States that he opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state as part of any postwar scenario, underscoring the deep divisions between the close allies three months into Israel’s assault on Gaza aiming to eliminate its Hamas rulers.

The U.S. has called on Israel to scale back its offensive and said that the establishment of a Palestinian state should be part of the “day after.”

But in a nationally broadcast news conference, Netanyahu vowed to press ahead with the offensive until Israel realizes a “decisive victory over Hamas.” He also rejected the idea of Palestinian statehood. He said he had relayed his positions to the Americans.

“In any future arrangement … Israel needs security control all territory west of the Jordan,” Netanyahu told a nationally broadcast news conference. “This collides with the idea of sovereignty. What can you do?”

“The prime minister needs to be capable of saying no to our friends,” he added.
Footage emerged Thursday of Israeli troops blowing up the main campus of a university outside Gaza City in a controlled detonation — one of multiple universities they have destroyed. The video, apparently taken by drone, showed a giant explosion engulfing the complex of buildings of Al-Israa University.

The university, a private institution founded in 2014, said in a statement that its main building for graduate studies and bachelor’s colleges were destroyed. It said Israeli forces seized the complex 70 days ago and used it as a base. It was unclear when the explosion took place. The Israeli army had no immediate comment.

According to Hamas, Israeli forces have destroyed more than 390 schools, universities, and educational institutions across Gaza.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/benjamin ... abd7aac36b

Well Bibi now tells us what he showed the map at the UN was the plan all along. No Palestinian State period all will be Greater Israel.
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“The prime minister needs to be capable of saying no to our friends,” he added.
So Bibi sez…
Maybe this is exactly what Biden needs to be capable of saying no the rogue government of Israel now.

Nethenyahu pulled this same Napoleonic BS on Clinton before. That administration sat the man down and calmly explained which one was the Superpower. Then forced Nethenyahu to shake hands with Arafat in front of photographers in a press conference.
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How is Hamas to be stopped if Israel cannot go into Gaza and destroy them? Hamas uses its own people as human shields.

In WWII, the Japanese military used its own citizens as human shields on Okinawa. We bombed the shit out of them anyway, killing 150,000 innocent citizens. We are in no position to criticize Israel for doing far less to Gaza. Think about THAT! Remember: the IDF WARNED Gazans to get out of the war zone. What happened? Hamas moved with them, using them yet again as human shields. WTF is Israel supposed to do? Not one person blaming Israel has given one good alternative solution that protects Israel and every Jew world-wide from Hama's sworn pledge to kill ever Jew in Israel and worldwide, and has sworn as well to have 2nd, 3rd, and 4th October 7th.

Until someone can tell me how Israel can protect itself against the Hamas monsters, as much of a crooked disreputable asshole as Netanyahu is, he's correct. Hamas MUST be destroyed by any means possible.
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Netanyahu is watching US presidential polling and is betting that Trump will win in November and Netanyahu will get everything he wants. Trump moved the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, because Netanyahu wanted it. Netanyahu has always fought a two state solution and Biden is pushing the two state solution really hard right now. If elected, Trump would push to increase aid to Israel and stop all aid to Ukraine which would please Putin.

The longer this conflict goes on, the more it damages Israel's favorability in the world and US favorability.
New data shared with TIME from the business intelligence company Morning Consult shows that support for Israel around the world has dropped significantly since the war in Gaza began. Net favorability—the percentage of people viewing Israel positively after subtracting the percentage viewing it negatively—dropped globally by an average of 18.5 percentage points between September and December, decreasing in 42 out of the 43 countries polled. China, South Africa, Brazil, and several other countries in Latin America all went from viewing Israel positively to negatively. And many rich countries that already had net negative views of Israel—including Japan, South Korea, and the U.K.—saw steep declines. Net favorability in Japan went from -39.9 to -62.0; in South Korea from-5.5 to -47.8; and in the U.K. from -17.1 to -29.8.
The U.S. remains the only rich country that still had net positive views of Israel. Net favorability dropped just 2.2 percentage points, from a net favorability of 18.2 to a net favorability of 16 from September to December. Washington's support for Israel carries a cost in global public opinion, however, particularly in Arab countries, the surveys show. In Egypt, the U.S. went from having a positive favorability of 41.1 to a negative favorability of -14.9 from September to December. In Saudi Arabia, the U.S. saw a similar trend, dropping from a positive favorability of 12.2 to -10.5 over the same time period. Frisbie says that the shift will make it difficult for Saudi Arabia to continue cooperating with Israel and pursuing a planned normalization deal brokered by the U.S.
https://time.com/6559293/morning-consul ... l-opinion/


A recent California poll by UC, Berkeley/LA Times shows Biden is losing on Israel,
Divided opinion over the war has left President Biden vulnerable to criticism from both left and right. Overall, 55% of the state’s voters disapprove of Biden’s response, while 33% approve. But 64% of voters who describe themselves as strongly liberal disapprove of Biden’s response to the conflict, as do 67% of those who identify as strongly conservative. The sharp division by age is a major factor, with 69% of voters younger than 30 and 65% of those 30-39 disapproving of how Biden has handled the conflict.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... -hamas-war

It's ironic that Biden takes the unpopular position among Democrats of supporting Israel, but wouldn't take the unpopular position of supporting gun rights. Democrats would vote for Biden anyway, because he's not Trump.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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A key member of Israel's war cabinet has accused Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of not telling the truth about the military goals in Gaza. Mr Netanyahu has publicly rejected the US push for a future Palestinian state and insisted the offensive would continue "until complete victory". but Gadi Eisenkot said those advocating "absolute defeat" of Hamas were not "speaking the truth". The retired general's son was killed fighting in Gaza.
The US has repeatedly tried to influence Israel's military strategy during this conflict - urging more precision-guided attacks in Gaza as opposed to the blanket air strikes; delaying or abandoning the ground invasion; and engaging in meaningful talks on a two-state solution in which Israel would neighbour a future Palestinian state, with a role for the Palestinian Authority. But the calls have often been rejected by Mr Netanyahu during tense meetings with US officials, deepening the frustration in some American circles over President Biden's unconditional support for Israel. Amid the preponderance of death in this conflict, Israel's allies hope life could be breathed back into the dormant two-state plan as the only way to create lasting peace.


But Mr Netanyahu's comments appear to show he wants quite the opposite: a position he undoubtedly hopes would be more in line with a future administration of Donald Trump and which could have been timed to give his old American friend red meat to rally his pro-Israel supporters in a US election year. Within Israel, an increasingly unpopular prime minister is falling back on the far-right that props up his government. A recent poll found that just 15% of Israelis want him to keep his job after the war. And while most Israelis continue to support military action against Hamas, the majority now say they want to prioritise bringing the remaining 130 or so hostages home, over the potentially impossible aim of destroying Hamas.
But Israel's prime minister seems to have staked his political survival on a hard-line anti-Palestinian position. No longer can he sell himself as "Mr Security" after the worst attacks in Israel's history happening under his watch. Now it's "Mr No Independent Palestine": a position he believes will chime with the public mood here that, while increasingly out of love with its prime minister, is still too traumatised to conceive of a Palestinian state next door.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68035744

Polls show if an Israeli election was held today, Likud would be defeated and Benny Gantz's National Unity Party would win the most seats and he'd be prime minister.
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highdesert wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:29 am
Polls show if an Israeli election was held today, Likud would be defeated and Benny Gantz's National Unity Party would win the most seats and he'd be prime minister.
But would there even be elections under Bibi? He's following the dreams of his friend, TOS, he would likely try to avoid any election and become prime minister for life.
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Rebuffing Biden, Netanyahu Rejects Any Palestinian Sovereignty In Post-War Gaza

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu opposes any form of Palestinian sovereignty in post-war Gaza, his office said Saturday, appearing to rebuff U.S. President Joe Biden’s suggestion that creative solutions could bridge wide gaps between the leaders’ views on Palestinian statehood.

In a sign of the pressures Netanyahu’s government faces at home and abroad, a protest outside the prime minister’s home grew as people joined a group representing families of the more than 100 remaining hostages held by Hamas and other militant groups.

The families want the government to take bold steps to free the hostages, fearing that Israel’s military activity in Gaza further endangers their lives.

Netanyahu is also under heat to appease members of his right-wing ruling coalition by intensifying the war against Hamas, which governs Gaza, while contending with calls for restraint from the United States, its closest ally.

The statement from the prime minister’s office said Netanyahu made clear Friday in his first conversation with Biden in nearly a month that his position on a post-war Gaza hasn’t changed. Netanyahu reiterated that Israel must retain security control over the territory after Hamas is destroyed — “a requirement that contradicts the demand for Palestinian sovereignty,” the statement said.
Full article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rebuffin ... f1ce662ad0

Our government doesn’t have the fortitude to just tell Netanyahu and the Israeli government that we are stopping all military aid and equipment to Israel and will give humanitarian assistance to the people of Gaza.
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TrueTexan wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:38 pm
Rebuffing Biden, Netanyahu Rejects Any Palestinian Sovereignty In Post-War Gaza

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu opposes any form of Palestinian sovereignty in post-war Gaza, his office said Saturday, appearing to rebuff U.S. President Joe Biden’s suggestion that creative solutions could bridge wide gaps between the leaders’ views on Palestinian statehood.

In a sign of the pressures Netanyahu’s government faces at home and abroad, a protest outside the prime minister’s home grew as people joined a group representing families of the more than 100 remaining hostages held by Hamas and other militant groups.

The families want the government to take bold steps to free the hostages, fearing that Israel’s military activity in Gaza further endangers their lives.

Netanyahu is also under heat to appease members of his right-wing ruling coalition by intensifying the war against Hamas, which governs Gaza, while contending with calls for restraint from the United States, its closest ally.

The statement from the prime minister’s office said Netanyahu made clear Friday in his first conversation with Biden in nearly a month that his position on a post-war Gaza hasn’t changed. Netanyahu reiterated that Israel must retain security control over the territory after Hamas is destroyed — “a requirement that contradicts the demand for Palestinian sovereignty,” the statement said.
Full article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rebuffin ... f1ce662ad0

Our government doesn’t have the fortitude to just tell Netanyahu and the Israeli government that we are stopping all military aid and equipment to Israel and will give humanitarian assistance to the people of Gaza.
That would be the right thing to do and also tell Israel if Palestine does not have a right to exist neither does Israel.
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What-a-yahoo is making a serious tactical mistake refusing to even CONSIDER a Palestinian state because it alienates Biden and the USA. Bibi is hoping and preying (deliberate misspelling) that Trump gets elected because the orange diaper boy will give him carte blanche, while cutting of Ukraine--Israel's relationship with Putin since the Ukraine invasion has been one avoiding condemning Russia. Though Putin DID throw Israel under the bus RE: Gaza.

Nobody has yet proposed a different solution to Hamas that ensures Israel's security and that the monsters of 7 Oct be brought to justice.

BTW, our own Manifest Destiny cost an estimated 130 MILLION indigenous lives!
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:41 am What-a-yahoo is making a serious tactical mistake refusing to even CONSIDER a Palestinian state because it alienates Biden and the USA. Bibi is hoping and preying (deliberate misspelling) that Trump gets elected because the orange diaper boy will give him carte blanche, while cutting of Ukraine--Israel's relationship with Putin since the Ukraine invasion has been one avoiding condemning Russia. Though Putin DID throw Israel under the bus RE: Gaza.

Nobody has yet proposed a different solution to Hamas that ensures Israel's security and that the monsters of 7 Oct be brought to justice.

BTW, our own Manifest Destiny cost an estimated 130 MILLION indigenous lives!
Our Rightwing Rethugs and much of the rightwing fundamentalist Christian rightwing will continue to say the poor Israelis, that is all their homeland because of the Holocaust. TOS will be happy to tell the Israeli supporters here in the USA to send him more money so he can get elected and save Israel. The US Military Industrial Complex will be telling congress, you need to buy more weapons to send to Israel, so we can make more profit.

YT our Manifest Destiny is still adding to the total lives lost due to poor living conditions on reservations and in poor neighborhoods where public services are limited and the population is mainly of minorities. Manifest Destiny also allowed the expansion of slavery into areas like what became Texas and other regions that eventually led to the Civil War and more lives lost.
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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:43 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:41 am What-a-yahoo is making a serious tactical mistake refusing to even CONSIDER a Palestinian state because it alienates Biden and the USA. Bibi is hoping and preying (deliberate misspelling) that Trump gets elected because the orange diaper boy will give him carte blanche, while cutting of Ukraine--Israel's relationship with Putin since the Ukraine invasion has been one avoiding condemning Russia. Though Putin DID throw Israel under the bus RE: Gaza.

Nobody has yet proposed a different solution to Hamas that ensures Israel's security and that the monsters of 7 Oct be brought to justice.

BTW, our own Manifest Destiny cost an estimated 130 MILLION indigenous lives!
Our Rightwing Rethugs and much of the rightwing fundamentalist Christian rightwing will continue to say the poor Israelis, that is all their homeland because of the Holocaust. TOS will be happy to tell the Israeli supporters here in the USA to send him more money so he can get elected and save Israel. The US Military Industrial Complex will be telling congress, you need to buy more weapons to send to Israel, so we can make more profit.

YT our Manifest Destiny is still adding to the total lives lost due to poor living conditions on reservations and in poor neighborhoods where public services are limited and the population is mainly of minorities. Manifest Destiny also allowed the expansion of slavery into areas like what became Texas and other regions that eventually led to the Civil War and more lives lost.
And where are those Israelis supposed to go? The standard spiel is that 700,000 Palestinians were displaced by Israel's founding, but in response, 972,000 Jews were expelled from THEIR traditional homes in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, and Iran, where they had lived for centuries. What happens to all of THEM and THEIR descendants?

Why can there be dozens of Muslim-majority states, 150+ Christian-majority states, but not one single small Jewish-Majority state in the world?
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YT they have it and is called Israel. The boundaries were set under the Oslo Accords and later the Oslo Accords II.
Breakdown in the Oslo process

The redeployment of Israeli security forces and elections for the PA as specified in the Oslo II agreement were carried out as planned. But the Oslo process confronted its first major hurdle on November 4, 1995, when Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist after attending a peace rally. Israel’s 1996 election, reflecting the growing concerns of the Israeli public over national security, brought to power Benjamin Netanyahu, an outspoken critic of the Oslo Accords.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Oslo-Accords
Seems even back then, Netanyahu had other ideas.

I personally don't have a dog in this fight. Hamas didn't attack until after Netanyahu stood up at the UN and wave a map he stated was to be greater Israel that had NO Gaza Strip and NO West Bank areas for the Palestinian people. Was Netanyahu trying to provoke a strike by Hamas by waving that map, thus giving him an excuse to attack Gaza and let the settlers attack on the West Bank? We may not ever know, but it seems rather suspicious.

If Mexico's President stood up in the UN and waved a map that showed Mexico having all the land they had before the Mexican War and said this will be Greater Mexico. At the same time having the Mexican Military forces massed on the Mexican US border or moving troops toward the border., what do you think might happen?

Just saying there might be more than we will ever know.
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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:44 pm YT they have it and is called Israel. The boundaries were set under the Oslo Accords and later the Oslo Accords II.
Breakdown in the Oslo process

The redeployment of Israeli security forces and elections for the PA as specified in the Oslo II agreement were carried out as planned. But the Oslo process confronted its first major hurdle on November 4, 1995, when Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist after attending a peace rally. Israel’s 1996 election, reflecting the growing concerns of the Israeli public over national security, brought to power Benjamin Netanyahu, an outspoken critic of the Oslo Accords.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Oslo-Accords
Seems even back then, Netanyahu had other ideas.

I personally don't have a dog in this fight. Hamas didn't attack until after Netanyahu stood up at the UN and wave a map he stated was to be greater Israel that had NO Gaza Strip and NO West Bank areas for the Palestinian people. Was Netanyahu trying to provoke a strike by Hamas by waving that map, thus giving him an excuse to attack Gaza and let the settlers attack on the West Bank? We may not ever know, but it seems rather suspicious.

If Mexico's President stood up in the UN and waved a map that showed Mexico having all the land they had before the Mexican War and said this will be Greater Mexico. At the same time having the Mexican Military forces massed on the Mexican US border or moving troops toward the border., what do you think might happen?

Just saying there might be more than we will ever know.
Agree.
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After Rabine was assassinated by an ultra-right wing supporter of Nethenyahu, many Israelis, including Rabine’s wife, blamed the killing squarely on Nethenyahu. He was eventually forced to resign his post in government over the outrage at his unrepentant and incendiary language but Stochastic Terrorism wasn’t yet on the radar as a prosecutable crime. So he slowly slinked back into the limelight and eventually squeeked into becoming PM. This is how a country fails: by allowing scoundrels to take power through scapegoating The Other. (And if 45 is any indication, we are at the doorstep of a similar catastrophe.)
The current Israeli regime clearly will not survive much longer. But the Israeli people themselves still have a chance of avoiding an outright war with the Arab world. But that door is closing.
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It is not that Hamas attacked. There's ways to respond to that. Had they attacked military and infrastructure targets that would be different. But they deliberately planned to commit atrocities, to rape and then mutilate their victims. They knew about the music festival and planned to drive the audience into kill zones. They beheaded babies in their cribs, cooked one in an oven. This was not war or even collateral damage deaths. This was solely a terror campaign, to reinforce that their goal is to kill every Jew, first in Israel, and, eventually, the world. And they are creating PR for that so no Jew anywhere can feel safe. I am a Jew, my wife and sons are Jews, and they are henning up people, Americans, who want to kill me and mine.

Of course Netanyahu and his backers deserve to be punished for making a bad situation far,far worse, AND leaving Israel vulnerable. Yet he is now making it worse, denying that 2 state , which is the best way and only way to peace.
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So Hamas should answer for their war crimes. Just as Israel should answer for their widespread bombing and shelling of civilians and hospitals. Both sides well try to blame the other. But the quote holds, “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Unfortunately I don’t see any solutions for this in the near future unless the suppliers for both sides are just cut off.
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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:17 pm So Hamas should answer for their war crimes. Just as Israel should answer for their widespread bombing and shelling of civilians and hospitals. Both sides well try to blame the other. But the quote holds, “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Unfortunately I don’t see any solutions for this in the near future unless the suppliers for both sides are just cut off.
Do you actually BELIEVE Iran will cut off Hamas????????????????????????????????
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Not with the current leadership in Iran. Only that would happen if it was too expensive for Iran by cutting their supplies to make the weapons.
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TrueTexan wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:37 am Not with the current leadership in Iran. Only that would happen if it was too expensive for Iran by cutting their supplies to make the weapons.
Iran's economy is in big trouble, yet they still supply surrogate terrorists, and restarted their nuclear weapon program after the Orange Turd stupidly cancelled the Obama Deal because--it was by Obama.
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IDF Mines Planted in Gaza Buildings Explode, Killing 21 Israeli Soldiers

At least 21 Israeli soldiers were killed Monday after explosives planted by the Israel Defense Forces in two Gaza buildings detonated, causing the structures to collapse.

The explosion was apparently triggered by a rocket-propelled grenade attack on a nearby Israeli tank. Daniel Hagari, an IDF spokesperson, acknowledged during a televised statement that "the buildings probably exploded because of the mines that our forces laid there, in preparation to demolish them and the infrastructure around."

Hagari said that most of the soldiers killed in the incident were inside or close to the buildings when the mines went off.

Since October 7, Israeli forces have engaged in large-scale destruction of Gaza's infrastructure, including homes and other civilian buildings—the targeting of which is a war crime. Israeli soldiers have gleefully filmed the obliteration of entire Gaza neighborhoods, footage that South Africa played during its presentation at the International Court of Justice earlier this month.

Last week, the IDF used mines to blow up a university in northern Gaza, drawing international outrage.

Monday's explosion contributed to the deadliest day for Israeli forces since their latest assault on the Gaza Strip began three and a half months ago, with 24 IDF soldiers killed. Meanwhile, an average of 239 Gazans have been killed each day by Israeli forces since October 7, when Hamas launched a deadly attack on southern Israel.

"It is difficult to find similar numbers in other recent conflicts," El Paísreported Monday. "The available data, compiled by the United Nations in the academic project Cost of War, indicate that more people are dying per day in Gaza than in Iraq (even in the worst month of fighting in that country), in Syria, or in the first month of war in Ukraine."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/idf-m ... i-soldiers

Can we say this was a total FUBAR or FUBAB action by the IDF.
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Israel has long stepped into FUBAR territory and is just now recognizing this with the largest one-day casualty of their IDF soldiers. I wonder how this will affect Israeli sentiments about their leadership now.
This is definitely turning out to be their Vietnam War: un-winable. FUBAR!
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Re: A Defiant Netanyahu Says No One Can Halt Israel's War To Crush Hamas, Including The World Court

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Bisbee wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:15 pm Israel has long stepped into FUBAR territory and is just now recognizing this with the largest one-day casualty of their IDF soldiers. I wonder how this will affect Israeli sentiments about their leadership now.
This is definitely turning out to be their Vietnam War: un-winable. FUBAR!
Well, being arrogant, self centered fascists usually ends up being a bad idea. No sympathy for Israel, they are getting back exactly what they have doled out for years.
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